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Writer, editor & media critic focused on parenting and gender. Comics nerd, mom of three. Bylines: NYT, Esquire, Time, Bright Magazine. Assoc. Ed. http://YourTango.com 

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    joanna schroeder‏Verified account @iproposethis 12 Aug 2019

    Do you have white teenage sons? Listen up. I've been watching my boys' online behavior & noticed that social media and vloggers are actively laying groundwork in white teens to turn them into alt-right/white supremacists. Here's how:

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      2. joanna schroeder‏Verified account @iproposethis 12 Aug 2019

        It's a system I believe is purposefully created to disillusion white boys away from progressive/liberal perspectives. First, the boys are inundated by memes featuring subtly racist, sexist, homophobic, anti-Semitic jokes. Being kids, they don't see the nuance & repeat/share.

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      3. joanna schroeder‏Verified account @iproposethis 12 Aug 2019

        Then they're called out for these jokes/phrases/memes by parents, teachers, kids (mostly girls) at school & online. The boys then feel shame & embarrassment - and shame is the force that, I believe, leads people to their worst decisions.

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      4. joanna schroeder‏Verified account @iproposethis 12 Aug 2019

        The second step is the boys consuming media with the "people are too sensitive" and "you can't say anything anymore!" themes. For these boys, this will ring true - they're getting in trouble for "nothing". This narrative allows boys to shed the shame - replacing it w/anger.

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      5. joanna schroeder‏Verified account @iproposethis 12 Aug 2019

        And who is their anger with? Women, feminists, liberals, people of color, gay folks, etc etc. So-called snowflakes. And nobody is there to dismantle the "snowflake" fallacy. These boys are being set up - they're placed like baseballs on a tee and hit right out of the park.

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      6. joanna schroeder‏Verified account @iproposethis 12 Aug 2019

        And NOBODY seems to notice this happening - except, it seems, moms of teenage girls who see the bizarre harassment their daughters endure. And, of course, moms like me who stalk our sons' social media.

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      7. joanna schroeder‏Verified account @iproposethis 12 Aug 2019

        These are often boys from progressive or moderate families - but their online behavior & viewing habits are often ignored. Here's an early red flag: if your kid says "triggered" as a joke referring to people being sensitive, he's already being exposed & on his way. Intervene!

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      8. joanna schroeder‏Verified account @iproposethis 12 Aug 2019

        Look through his Instagram Explore screen with him. Explain what's underlying those memes. Explain why "triggered" isn't a joke, what a PTSD trigger is actually like. Evoke empathy without shaming him. Remind him you know he's a good person, but explain how propaganda works.

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      9. joanna schroeder‏Verified account @iproposethis 12 Aug 2019

        Propaganda makes extreme points of view seem normal by small amounts of exposure over time - all for the purpose of converting people to more extremist points of view. Use my baseball analogy, if you want. Tell your son that he doesn't have to be anybody's fool.

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      10. joanna schroeder‏Verified account @iproposethis 12 Aug 2019

        Teenagers have an innate drive toward independence, and once this system is exposed, they're likely to start questioning the memes & vloggers' intentions. Tell them you are always there, not judging, to look at content & try to spot the lie - no judgment. Then don't judge!

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      11. joanna schroeder‏Verified account @iproposethis 12 Aug 2019

        You can also watch political comedy shows with him, like Trevor Noah, John Oliver, Hasan Minhaj. Talk about what makes their jokes funny - who are the butt of the jokes? Do they "punch up" or down?

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      12. joanna schroeder‏Verified account @iproposethis 12 Aug 2019

        Our boys want funny guys to relate to. Give them John Mulaney, Hannibal Burress, Hasan Minhaj, Neal Brennan, Dave Chappelle ... then TALK TO YOUR SONS about that funny shit. Break it down. (Also give them women comics, obviously, but that's beside the point here).

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      13. joanna schroeder‏Verified account @iproposethis 12 Aug 2019

        Show them that progressive comedy isn't about being "politically correct" or safe. It's often about exposing oppressive systems - which is the furthest thing from "safe" or delicate as you can get.

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      14. joanna schroeder‏Verified account @iproposethis 12 Aug 2019

        Disprove this "snowflake" garbage once & for all. Ask your son: Who is more of a delicate "snowflake" - the person who gets offended by racism/sexism & actively wants to help end bigotry? Or the person who is offended by people saying happy holidays instead of merry Christmas?

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      15. joanna schroeder‏Verified account @iproposethis 12 Aug 2019

        Above all, we need to stay engaged & challenge our kids without shaming them. I'm lucky, my kids are smart and have a smart, critical, progressive dad who isn't afraid to call bullshit when he sees it. But I've seen SO MANY white boys falling prey to this system. So beware.

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      16. joanna schroeder‏Verified account @iproposethis 13 Aug 2019

        joanna schroeder Retweeted Max Fisher

        Thanks to the commenter who shared this thread by journos doing the real work on this subject. @Max_Fisher you're a hero for this.https://twitter.com/Max_Fisher/status/1160950447156473856?s=19 …

        joanna schroeder added,

        Max FisherVerified account @Max_Fisher
        Now live: Our monthslong project on YouTube radicalization. As YouTube diverts more and more users down far-right rabbitholes, could its algorithm, in a way, radicalize an entire society? To find out, we went to YouTube's 2nd-largest market: Brazil. https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/11/world/americas/youtube-brazil.html …
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      17. joanna schroeder‏Verified account @iproposethis 13 Aug 2019

        And someone suggested this relevant interview with a former white supremacist on how he became radicalized. https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/clear-vivid-with-alan-alda/e/58189351?fbclid=IwAR3Q9zLCfEdQ5FTy0-cx4P1JqlNUKcP_e0RQhQNSKCWlRlBVotsmSaOD5yo …

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      18. joanna schroeder‏Verified account @iproposethis 14 Aug 2019

        another great source that I read sometime back and had forgotten about. This is a parent's true story. I don't know who they are, though.https://www.washingtonian.com/2019/05/05/what-happened-after-my-13-year-old-son-joined-the-alt-right/ …

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      19. joanna schroeder‏Verified account @iproposethis 14 Aug 2019

        "'Why would adults want to do that?...How could I fall for it?' ...he’d been a pawn in a much larger game. At age 13, suddenly friendless, he couldn’t be expected to understand how he was being manipulated or how technology made it easier for the online alt-right to find him."

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      20. joanna schroeder‏Verified account @iproposethis 15 Aug 2019

        joanna schroeder Retweeted Curtis Perry

        More resources!https://twitter.com/curtisperry/status/1162026006498172929?s=19 …

        joanna schroeder added,

        Curtis Perry @curtisperry
        Replying to @iproposethis
        Meanwhile in the news: “iFunny Has Become A Hub For White Nationalism—The Russian-owned image-sharing application is extremely popular with teen boys. It’s also full of far-right propaganda.” https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/ryanhatesthis/the-meme-app-ifunny-is-a-huge-hub-for-white-nationalists …
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