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    1. Erik Bernhardsson‏ @bernhardsson Jul 20

      I think this specialization of data teams into 99 different roles (data scientist, data engineer, analytics engineer, ML engineer etc) is generally a bad thing driven by the fact that tools are bad and too hard to use

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    2. Erik Bernhardsson‏ @bernhardsson Jul 20

      Part of this problem is I think because a lot of backend stuff has leaked into the data world (k8s, docker, terraform, etc). The abstraction layers aren’t very strong. It’s like if you would have to learn how the Linux kernel works in order to build a web app.

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    3. Katie Bauer!‏ @imightbemary Jul 20
      Replying to @bernhardsson @fulhack

      IMO the biggest obstacles for data science teams stem from the fact that companies can’t express what they want from DS. Even when tools built to solve eng problems DO work for data scientists, they can’t create a purpose for a team with that’s been given no clear mandate

      1 reply 0 retweets 8 likes
    4. Erik Bernhardsson‏ @bernhardsson Jul 20
      Replying to @imightbemary

      That’s is true but seems like a related but different problem? Even companies with super clear expectations on data teams seem to go in the direction of fragmentation, I think

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    5. Katie Bauer!‏ @imightbemary Jul 20
      Replying to @bernhardsson @fulhack

      I guess I did get a little sidetracked from your original point 😅 But IMO fragmentation can be a good thing if it’s about clarifying responsibilities. Analysts and scientists may have overlapping skills, but focus their effort on creating value from data in different ways

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    6. Erik Bernhardsson‏ @bernhardsson Jul 20
      Replying to @imightbemary

      Sure but just digging a bit deeper, what’s the benefit of that specialization? If both roles could do both things (I’m not saying they can now, because tools get in the way imo), wouldn’t that be better?

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    7. Katie Bauer!‏ @imightbemary Jul 20
      Replying to @bernhardsson @fulhack

      The boundary between different DS roles is pretty thin, and I think that’s good. However, I see a lot of benefit in only trying to apply one type of problem solving lens at a time. Job title is a way to formalize that for longer periods, but it could be a project by project thing

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    8. Katie Bauer!‏ @imightbemary Jul 20
      Replying to @imightbemary @fulhack

      It’s hard to develop significant expertise in being a data engineer, data analyst and data scientist when you’re trying to learn all of them at once

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    9. Erik Bernhardsson‏ @bernhardsson Jul 20
      Replying to @imightbemary

      100%! my point is that it is hard because all current infra is waaaay too complex and with better infra I would hope roles would be more blurry and collapse. Until then I totally understand why we have such fragmentation

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      Katie Bauer!‏ @imightbemary Jul 20
      Replying to @bernhardsson @fulhack

      Yeah, I think we actually agree here :) Tooling is a source of a lot of noise, and people focus on them as a solution rather than a symptom of the underlying problem

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