Things I want people to maximize: 1 Variety of experience 2 Domain-specific competence 3 Pattern recognition (esp. self-awareness) 4 Kindness More their derivatives though. Openness to experience, practice, ubiquitous and rigorous analysis, cultivation of virtue.
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Maybe it's because the derivatives seem more immediately malleable. Or optional. So I feel more ethically justified in judging people for them. The 1st-order metrics obviously take time to accumulate even w/ maximum effort. Except not "effort". I wonder what I really mean here
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It somehow feels like the "derivatives" I mentioned are immediately and universally attainable, if only one so "willed". But that's clearly untrue and/or incoherent. So I wonder what it really is that I feel justified morally judging people for, & why. Or if it's just irrational
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Maybe something like, "I could possibly persuade or cause people to immediately change these" Like by the end of our interaction, the derivatives can have changed. Except they usually don't, and I'm not sure why I would think they can, any more than the 1st-order measures.
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"Variety of experience" would include e.g. experience of thought. And it kind of subsumes all the other metrics, including the derivatives. This makes it obvious why all of them take time to cultivate. A new thread of thought: what is it that makes an experience "new"?
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Time passes at a rate independent of novelty. To be "new" refers to something else, dependent on organisation. There also have to be discrete parts And in a sequential-state system where one always has the option to return to any past state, new always means better
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So maybe my metrics are based on an analogy between life and such a sequential-state system. Variety of exp - new states Competence - use of option to return Pattern recognition - approximation to perfect decision making (i.e. "good"-measuring) Kindness - a selfish addendum
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And the derivatives refer to the like desire or motive to maximize these, rather than an actual derivative. More "good-valuation of strict-increasingness" So it's not something I can necessarily affect, but yes something constant I can viably and justifiably judge people by.
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Since if any derivative is strictly increasingly, all the higher ones also have to be strictly increasing. So though they do change over time, the strict-increasingness does not. And I can have heuristics for that. So yeah. If you disagree, you're a bad person (but can change).
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this isnt right, its possible to have a monotonic increasing function with a negative second derivative eg logarithms
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Yeah this whole thread was just 4am thoughts lol and this is what I get for never having touched the numbers part of math
That whole bit is actually irrelevant though, I think. It's not like "good" is even effectively a differentiable function0 replies 0 retweets 1 likeThanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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