here in the us, where we are a civilized democracy, existing power structures subvert threats corporations sell che shirts, the people who push the most for racial equality are white, and people buy laptop stickers to "protest injustice"https://twitter.com/imhinesmi/status/1249751334808674306?s=20 …
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precisely communicating what you want is hard, cant be done at scale, and its not like most people agree about the details anyway so you dumb it down a bit, you be less precise, you build coalitions and then you open yourself to chapman sociopathshttps://twitter.com/imhinesmi/status/1249758477972578307?s=20 …
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any sufficiently vague but good-sounding slogan has room for misinterpretation this can be used by you (motte/bailey) or against you (quote mining) it also allows people loyal to old power to twist your movement into whatever serves old power
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the current power in the us is consumerism and the market the way that it twists movements is by selling paraphernalia and giving anyone successful at anything nice things in this way, people can "help" a movement by consuming and participating in the market
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this is where the taboo on "selling out" comes from the end result is that everyone who "cares" about a cause will buy a hollowed-out identity, featuring the symbols that used to mean something good the real ideology will be eaten by the markethttps://twitter.com/imhinesmi/status/1249758569634902017?s=20 …
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ian hines @imhinesmiReplying to @imhinesmi @BonbonFork and 2 othersadvertisers dont spread ideology per se, they spread identities which imply a certain "ideology" (which consists entirely of aesthetics as opposed to opinions) advertisers only come in after some activist success so that there is a market1 reply 1 retweet 10 likesShow this thread -
this essay by moldbug is very relevant herehttps://americanmind.org/essays/the-clear-pill-part-1-of-5-the-four-stroke-regime/ …
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this is why people harp on about ideological purity because the market will not stop if you give in a little because if you let in people who dont completely agree with you, the movement will disintegrate
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"because if you let in people who dont completely agree with you, the movement will disintegrate" How to make change without coalition? How to build a wide coalition without letting in people who agree with you? maybe the truth is planned change isn't viable long term
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maybe whatever we see in the world is just an emergent dynamics of the most efficient superstructure (that's the true requisite to win) if you don't optimize for this dimension you can't win long term even if you have the best organizational skills
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If it's true the only viable way to play is either: - Be content with short timed victories over moloch - Find an even more efficient superstructure that you value more than the current one (extremely hard)
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this seems correct to me the value of purity is that if you do end up winning, it will actually be you who wins instead of moloch
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Been thinking a lot about abandoning the hope to change things globally and just try to create a small island of sanity, purity emphasis could be great for this use case.
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