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    1. Rival Voices ❁‏ @nosilverv Mar 27
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      right but you're again using a picture theory of language lol. it's just the case that for the relevant community at large that's the official story about what it means, but also 'we all know what it actually means wink wink'

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    2. Kaj Sotala‏ @xuenay Mar 27
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      I... don't know what it's supposed to actually mean? I think it just means what I said it means?

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    3. Rival Voices ❁‏ @nosilverv Mar 27
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      right, the point is, rationality-as-in-the-Sequences might be what cfar does. but cfar advertises rationality which dereferences to something else than rationality-as-in-the-Sequences.

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    4. Rival Voices ❁‏ @nosilverv Mar 27
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      is that more clear?

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    5. Kaj Sotala‏ @xuenay Mar 27
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      Thanks, that's more clear. Still not sure how exactly you mean, though? Like if I go to http://rationality.org  and click on "About", the copy that they advertise themselves with could be right from the Sequences.pic.twitter.com/s3Mb2qZLDi

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    6. Kaj Sotala‏ @xuenay Mar 27
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      Or wait, do you mean that rationality-in-the-Sequences in the first place, is different from what people mean by "rationality"?

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    7. Rival Voices ❁‏ @nosilverv Mar 27
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      Ok so, in historical order: (1) Rationality-in-the-sequences (2) what people come to believe (1) is (3) rationality-as-taught-by-cfar you claim (3) = (1). I believe that. What I'm saying is (2) [called by the users "rationality"] =! (1). And thus, following what you said =! (2)

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    8. Kaj Sotala‏ @xuenay Mar 27
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      Okay. But if (3) = (1), then there are people (e.g. CFAR instructors) who come to believe that (1) is (1) and not (2). And if they are teaching (1), it seems weird that they should say "we teach (1), but some people misunderstood (1), so we're going to call it something else".

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    9. Rival Voices ❁‏ @nosilverv Mar 27
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      I don't think it's weird? It's like yep people def. misunderstood (1) so because in most people's mind 'rationality' means (2) instead of (1) we'll just use a new name to make it clear!

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    10. Rival Voices ❁‏ @nosilverv Mar 27
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      But i mean yea eliezer calling it the same name as the philosophy of descartes and spinoza was not brilliant in terms of preventing confusion either

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      ian hines‏ @imhinesmi Mar 27
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      you can blame economists for that one, the field of rationality research has had its name for far longer than yud has been writing

      6:24 AM - 27 Mar 2020
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