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    1. Curried Apotheosis‏ @warpfork Mar 9
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      Starting to wonder how much good for democracy could be done in the U.S. by just launching an open, nation-wide alternative primary, using ranked-choice voting.

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    2. Curried Apotheosis‏ @warpfork Mar 9
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      It's not so much "fuck the DNC" as it is just "the DNC isn't doing this; we'd love to provide them this service and this good information".

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    3. Curried Apotheosis‏ @warpfork Mar 9
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      The current form of primaries gives remarkably noisy information. It's super prone to "interpretation"; and because the data is so muddled by districting, those "interpretations" can get dangerously "creative" rather than be informative. Opposite of what primaries are *for*.

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    4. Curried Apotheosis‏ @warpfork Mar 9
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      So let's make a new primary. Call it "#SuperSunday". Do it before "Super Tuesday". Do it simultaneously, everywhere. No states starting and reporting ahead of others, giving them false importance. Standardize polling rules. Votes should be able to sum up across the nation.

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    5. Curried Apotheosis‏ @warpfork Mar 9
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      (Bonus: Do it AGAIN the next Sunday. See if the discourse after the last results changed anything.) (There's no reason *not* to do this. The Swiss do multiple rounds of voting on almost anything serious, and it seems to work nicely for them.)

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    6. Curried Apotheosis‏ @warpfork Mar 9
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      Do one nation-wide pool of votes. No gerrymandering. No superdelegates. It's clear that nobody thinks those things are fair or good or correct, and they cause months of bad feelings on all sides; why do we keep doing it to ourselves? Let's just... stop!

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    7. Curried Apotheosis‏ @warpfork Mar 9
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      Binding? No, of course it's not binding. You can't bind the DNC nor RNC to a damn thing, and they've shown that. But it's better information for the rest of us. The amount of second-guessing and bitter recriminations about wrongly-strategic voting could drop to zero.

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    8. Curried Apotheosis‏ @warpfork Mar 9
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      And if the DNC really is continuing to run candidates that objectively no one likes... we get to *see it*. Maybe seeing it clearly -- no befuddlements from "splitting the vote", etc etc -- is the first step to fixing it.

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    9. Curried Apotheosis‏ @warpfork Mar 9
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      Is this all hopelessly naive? Well, maybe. But ask yourself: are you happy with the primary system as it stands? Is there any reason we can't just... make a new one? What would be standing in the way?

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      ian hines‏ @imhinesmi Mar 9
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      I see some problems with network effects + likely sampling error + difficulty with verifying millions of votes in one night These seem solvable with sufficient money + publicity though

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        2. Curried Apotheosis‏ @warpfork Mar 9
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          Also all good reasons to make it non-binding, at least at first. Like, I'm *very* worried about all the should-surely-now-be-well-discussed downsides of electronic voting. On the other hand: it's a primary. And the bar to be _better than_ what we're replacing is just _so_ low.

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        3. ian hines‏ @imhinesmi Mar 9
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          oh yeah for sure, its definitely worth a shot

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