The issue I most side with rationalist/transhumanist types on is that it's incredibly weird that "death is bad" is a controversial opinion.
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Replying to @m_ashcroft @GeniesLoki
Death is bad to the extent life is good. Being dead means you can no longer enjoy all the good things in life. It also means that nobody else can ever talk with you again, so whatever knowledge you had is lost forever.
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Replying to @imhinesmi @GeniesLoki
Sure, though the fact that this is the case makes life all the more precious. Besides, being dead doesn't mean missing out. There'll be no kind of experience of any kind. You only have FOMO while you're alive.
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Replying to @m_ashcroft @GeniesLoki
I'm going to be honest, the first part is pure cope. Scarcity does not add value. No FOMO != not missing out. You can judge how good an experience would be against having no experience at all. Many are better.
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As an experiment: try treating all arguments in favor of death as if you are trying to convince a bunch of immortals that death is good and they should add a maximum lifespan. Then try treating all arguments in favor of death as arguments in favor of suicide. (Because they are)
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Replying to @imhinesmi @GeniesLoki
This is where I get a bit lost. Given that I am going to die, I don't see any value in trying to convince myself that dying is a bad thing.
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if at any particular point in your life (when you didn't have a compelling suicidal reason) you were offered the point to die or live, you would probably choose life, right? anti-death is just the rationally considered extension of that feeling
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Replying to @ResonantPyre @m_ashcroft and
That's assuming "given the choice" and the choice is costless. What if it's "10 more years blissful existence or 20 more years of mediocre existence" The issue is that a lot of transhumanist philosophy requires committing resources and/or psychological anguish.
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Suicide is always a choice. Lots of philosophies require committing resources. That's how we choose to spend them, in general. We philosophize about what the most important things to spend money on are, then spend them on those things.
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