Why Veganism is Evil- I generally don’t get into ethics, but after some dipshit vegan interactions today I’m going to explain why Veganism is fundamentally evil. Now, we’re not going to get into the science of how human brains are big from a diet high in animal fat,
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Replying to @Libera_Rex
Seems to me like this thread is targeting a weak and bad form of veganism, and from an ethical framework that is completely orthogonal to veganism. Lots of focus on extrapolating actions to their end, rather than marginal benefit or on what actually motivates the actions.
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Although I will admit that the vegans I'm familiar with tend to be different from standard vegans. People who actually think things through rather than acting on gut feelings.
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My ethical framework is largely orthogonal to most. I don’t particularly care what motivates the actions because I see them as fundamentally symptomatic of nihilism and the widespread (disguised) hatred for human life- man qua man, the apex predator.
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Replying to @Libera_Rex
I finding the idea that veganism is anti-human to be really weird because when I look at vegans they're all very pro-life transhumanist types. Again, probably just my social circle, but veganism does not imply nihilism. Animal's lives can be worth things other than their meat.
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Replying to @imhinesmi
It’s nihilism when you value them above human life, and if meat is a necessary nutrient, then to choose not to eat them at the cost of lowering human quality of life is inherently anti life and thus nihilistic. Transhumanism is potentially anti life in some forms, as well
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Replying to @Libera_Rex
I've not seen anyone place animal lives above humans unless the animals vastly outnumber the humans. And some animals have quite vibrant inner lives too. The transhumanists I'm talking about here are mostly of the Yudkowskian variety: https://www.lesswrong.com/s/9bvAELWc8y2gYjRav …
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Replying to @imhinesmi
The transhumanist angle is entirely tangential and not one I have the time to get into. Would you shame a lion for eating a sheep? Nope. Same goes for people. I’m not terribly interested in debating this, for the record.
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Replying to @Libera_Rex
The problem I see isn't the act of eating itself, but the horrible living conditions for the sheep up until we eat it. Fair enough, though that does make me wonder why you posted something designed to spark a debate about it.
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Replying to @imhinesmi @Libera_Rex
I grew up on a sheep farm. Sheep had a perfect life until killed. Ample food, room to roam and exhibit normal behaviours, protection from disease and predators, then a quick death. Some farming techniques are abhorrent, and I oppose them, but they are far from universal.
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Oh absolutely. I'd start eating meat again if ethical farming became standard.
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