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    1. Moshe Hoffman‏ @Moshe_Hoffman 30 Dec 2018
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      Moshe Hoffman Retweeted Tony Corsentino

      :) (A good illustration of the problem of applying logic/formalism to human intuitions/language.)https://twitter.com/corsent/status/1079040333051236352 …

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      Tony Corsentino @corsent
      Fun with first-order logic for the literal-minded 🧐 Everybody loves my baby (∀x)Lxb But my baby don't love nobody but me (∀x)(Lbx → x=m) Therefore, baby is me b=m (Credit to Fats Waller for the premises and to Richard Jeffrey, _Formal Logic_, for noticing the implication)
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    2. Moshe Hoffman‏ @Moshe_Hoffman 30 Dec 2018
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      (Basically, every analytic philosophy paper I have read. Except those were not intended to be cheeky. And the fallacies are harder to spot.)

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    3. Moshe Hoffman‏ @Moshe_Hoffman 30 Dec 2018
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      It’s odd that given these kinds of issues that analytic philosophers take logic/formalism so seriously? No? Why don’t they realize that it’s liable to lead them to all sorts of confusion when applied to vague language and iffy intuitions? Seems kinda obv no? What am I missing?

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    4. Moshe Hoffman‏ @Moshe_Hoffman 30 Dec 2018
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      Or maybe there is a subtle institutional reason philosophers are nevertheless so motivated to try and formalize their intuitive arguments, despite the inherent flaw with this endeavor? Perhaps? Any guesses?

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      ian hines‏ @imhinesmi 30 Dec 2018
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      Nailing down arguments in a rigorous way is hard. Doing it successfully makes it a lot harder to argue against. Doing difficult things that nobody fights against is prestigious.

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        2. Moshe Hoffman‏ @Moshe_Hoffman 30 Dec 2018
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          Successfully? But my claim is it’s basically impossible to do successfully. Language isn’t math. Trying to treat the seductive logic as if it’s as precise as math will *necessrily* lead you astray. *Always* does.

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        3. Moshe Hoffman‏ @Moshe_Hoffman 30 Dec 2018
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          But also people do fight against this. If analytic philosophers are good at anything, they are good at finding the logical fallacy and thinking up a counterexample. So it’s not like once you formalize the argument you get away with it. Your colleagues find flaw and write responsa

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