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Ilja A. Iwas
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Ilja A. Iwas
@iljawascoding

Ilja A. Iwas

@iljawascoding

Co-founder of iwascoding. Working on serveral Mac and iOS apps. Available for contract work.

Joined November 2009
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    Ilja A. Iwas ‏@iljawascoding Jul 18

    This is why you don’t let compiler engineers control the fate of your computing platform(s): http://mjtsai.com/blog/2016/07/17/swift-classes-to-be-non-publicly-subclassable-by-default/ …

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      1. Maxim Zaks ‏@iceX33 Jul 18

        @iljawascoding subclassing is not impossible. It is just opt in now. Before it was performance opt in. I applaud to the move.

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      3. Maxim Zaks ‏@iceX33 Jul 18

        @iljawascoding I wonder how apple managed to make watchOS faster and and watches last longer without hardware update? 🤓

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      4. Marcel Weiher ‏@mpweiher Jul 18

        @icex33 @iljawascoding Apple Watch CPU is 500MHz w/32KB L1, 256KB L2. Dynamic dispatch was not an issue on 25Mhz 68040 w/4K cache.

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      6. Maxim Zaks ‏@iceX33 Jul 18

        @mpweiher @iljawascoding really? No cache misses on different subclasses? 😏 how big are the virtual tables?

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      7. Marcel Weiher ‏@mpweiher Jul 18

        @icex33 @iljawascoding I didn’t say dynamic dispatch didn’t exist. I said it wasn’t an issue. And you could always IMP-cache at call-site.

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      8. Maxim Zaks ‏@iceX33 Jul 18

        @mpweiher @iljawascoding everyone currently burning cycles just because they don't know better. Now you will have to explicitly say BURN :)

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      10. Marcel Weiher ‏@mpweiher Jul 18

        @icex33 @iljawascoding Yes, burning cycles on the altar of Swift. Usually several times slower, sometimes more, seldom ess.

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      11. Maxim Zaks ‏@iceX33 Jul 18

        @mpweiher @iljawascoding my data https://medium.com/@icex33/10-thousand-times-faster-swift-737b1accd973#.bm691w1ez … shows ~2x compared to C. Could try to compare to ObjC :)

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      1. Ghoulie Ghost Terror ‏@uliwitness Jul 18

        @iljawascoding Disagree. Has nothing to do with compiler design, everything with API/language design. Knowing what is subclassable is good

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      2. Ilja A. Iwas ‏@iljawascoding Jul 18

        @uliwitness My point is that somebody with a compiler engineering background has a different POV than an app developer.

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      4. Yo, tu sabes?  🙃 ‏@NeoNacho Jul 18 Kreuzberg, Berlin

        @iljawascoding @uliwitness this was a community proposal, though

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      6. Ilja A. Iwas ‏@iljawascoding Jul 18

        @NeoNacho @uliwitness Decision by echo-chamber committee?

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      7. Yo, tu sabes?  🙃 ‏@NeoNacho Jul 18 Kreuzberg, Berlin

        @iljawascoding @uliwitness ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ — just saying the idea didn’t necessarily originate from the language devs

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      9. Ilja A. Iwas ‏@iljawascoding Jul 18

        @NeoNacho @uliwitness But it pretty much falls in line with the Swift team’s general stance: “Dynamism is evil, static is good”.

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    1. Stephan Eggermont ‏@StOnSoftware Jul 18

      The compiler engineers don't have these problems, @iljawascoding. They don't have to ship with many libraries the don't control #bad #swift

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