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Husband. Dad. Davidson College Batten professor. Harvard Nieman Fellow. I don't drink alcohol but drown my sorrows in sweet tea. issacjbailey@gmail.com.

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    1. Thomas Chatterton Williams  🌍  🎧‏ @thomaschattwill 22 Jul 2020

      This is straight-up tragic. The “anti-racism” sweeping institutions still ends up rendering black people as somehow different, other, unable to meet even basic standards. Ralph Ellison weeps. “Rutgers English Department to deemphasize traditional grammar”https://www.thecollegefix.com/rutgers-english-department-to-deemphasize-traditional-grammar-in-solidarity-with-black-lives-matter/ …

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    2. Thomas Chatterton Williams  🌍  🎧‏ @thomaschattwill 22 Jul 2020

      This is the opposite of empowering. Black Americans are Americans. The slang is colorful and beautiful but we don’t speak English as a second language. And if the children of immigrants can excel in the classroom using standard English, why do people think we cannot?

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    3. Thomas Chatterton Williams  🌍  🎧‏ @thomaschattwill 22 Jul 2020

      There is growing pressure now to do away with SATs, GPAs and now even any shared conception of Standard English. What kind of world are we creating? In what way could this utter condescension possibly render a historically oppressed people suddenly equal?

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    4. Thomas Chatterton Williams  🌍  🎧‏ @thomaschattwill 22 Jul 2020

      Final point. I’m fluent in Ebonics and have been my whole life. That *never* prevented me from mastering the wider society’s linguistic customs. A teacher thinking I couldn’t write at the level of my white classmates would have constituted the worst racism I’ve ever encountered.

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    5. @ijbailey‏ @ijbailey 22 Jul 2020
      Replying to @thomaschattwill

      Are you saying Standard English is preferable/better or that it should be emphasized so we can have a unity of purpose or because it's the best way to get ahead? Just trying to pinpoint your objection. I didn't see where they say students won't have to master Standard English.

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    6. Thomas Chatterton Williams  🌍  🎧‏ @thomaschattwill 22 Jul 2020
      Replying to @ijbailey

      I am saying black Americans are native speakers and Standard English is accessible to everyone. I grew up around a lot of Italian Americans who did not have command of Standard English to the extent my father, brother and I did. So the whole thing is confusing race and class.

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      @ijbailey‏ @ijbailey 22 Jul 2020
      Replying to @thomaschattwill

      There's a lot of evidence, from top linguists and other researchers, that we have hampered the ability of certain segments of our society - particularly poor black kids - to get a better handle on Standard English because we don't acknowledge that their home speech is legit.

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        2. @ijbailey‏ @ijbailey 22 Jul 2020
          Replying to @ijbailey @thomaschattwill

          If Rutgers is relying upon that sound research, then it could actually move students forward in ways we all want to see. So far, I don't know enough about what "de-emphasize" means in this case to be for or against. The story didn't explain it.

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        3. Douglass Turner‏ @dugla 22 Jul 2020
          Replying to @ijbailey @thomaschattwill

          Not a linguist, just some guy. In the world of work - I am in tech - mastery of Standard English is foundational and lacking it is career suicide.

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        2. Enlitenment‏ @Enlitenment2 22 Jul 2020
          Replying to @ijbailey @thomaschattwill

          1/ I think the point is that worldwide people routinely use regional/cultural dialects, like Ebonics, which are usually primarily spoken, and still MASTER the more standardized language. I live in such a place. Americans continually fail to look beyond their borders. We should

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        3. Enlitenment‏ @Enlitenment2 22 Jul 2020
          Replying to @Enlitenment2 @ijbailey @thomaschattwill

          2/recognize that Black language in America is legit and call it a dialect, as it is. But let’s not rob students of the opportunity to be fully educated in the standard English they will need to have opportunity in the wider world their whole lives. Only way to learn is to USE it.

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        2. EmGeeToo‏ @miltongardnerjr 22 Jul 2020
          Replying to @ijbailey @thomaschattwill

          This argument has gone on since the 90s at least. People don't realize that they're not using "Black" English as a substitute for "Standard" English. It's used as a tool to learn standard English, and it's been recognized by linguists as a different form of English.

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        2. heautontimoroumenos, 동에번쩍 서에번쩍‏ @LeeSpring_ 22 Jul 2020
          Replying to @IsItTimeForA @ijbailey @thomaschattwill

          Because nobody is denying that Mandarin is a language, you bellend. But while people will gladly accept Scottish, Australian etc varieties of English, AAVE is dismissed as "bad grammar" when linguistically, it's its own form of English.

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        1. Angry Plantain‏ @angryplantain 22 Jul 2020
          Replying to @ijbailey @thomaschattwill

          1)Language is fluid not standard, it evolves and our institutions can evolve with it. 2) Some of the smartest people in this country speak AAVE or Ebonics why not give them equal opportunity. 3) There's a great @yourewrongabout on the Ebonics controversy, maybe give it a listen?

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