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Stream of thought on politics, science, and sexuality. Scientist, academic, left libertarian, feminism-critical, pro-sex worker, shameless #BernieBro.

Galway, Ireland
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    1. Liana Kerzner (Princess Sparklemuffin)‏Verified account @redlianak Apr 24

      Ok it's annoying me that people are treating incels as inherently violent. MOST are not. They might hold misogynist views but that doesn't make them all killers in training. Stop demonizing people who are already extremely messed up... Or anyone for that matter.

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    2. Galway Curiousblue‏ @iamcuriousblue Apr 24
      Replying to @redlianak

      I will say this much - of all of the offshoots of the men's movement, its incels that have been involved in two mass shootings now. It's worth looking at what's going on there.

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    3. Galway Curiousblue‏ @iamcuriousblue Apr 24
      Replying to @iamcuriousblue @redlianak

      Actually, three mass killings. There was another less-remembered one in 2011, when incel was still called "true forced loneliness".

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    4. Liana Kerzner (Princess Sparklemuffin)‏Verified account @redlianak Apr 24
      Replying to @iamcuriousblue

      Well, that makes sense based on the demographic it attracts. The link isn't causal but the likelihood does go up based on risk factors.

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      Galway Curiousblue‏ @iamcuriousblue Apr 24
      Replying to @redlianak

      Actually, 2009 not 2011. It was George Sodini that I was thinking of. Incel does seem to get a lot of guys who are at the end of their rope. I guess the question is, how to get men in these situations into something helpful rather than a toxic subculture.

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        2. Liana Kerzner (Princess Sparklemuffin)‏Verified account @redlianak Apr 24
          Replying to @iamcuriousblue

          It's about getting them to not define themselves based on others, right? The whole idea of celebacy being a bad thing is another thing that can be addressed. The whole term "incel" screams shame.

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        3. Karmakin‏ @Karmakin Apr 24
          Replying to @redlianak @iamcuriousblue

          I'm really not sure this needle can be threaded. We live in a world that not only celebrates, but demands love, romance and sex. I don't think we can selectively tell X group of people not to define themselves based upon others when everybody else is doing just that.

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        4. Liana Kerzner (Princess Sparklemuffin)‏Verified account @redlianak Apr 24
          Replying to @Karmakin @iamcuriousblue

          Well, I was working with a group of polyamorous people who constantly gaslighted me because I'm monogamous. So I had to do it. The shame tactics were unreal.

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        5. Karmakin‏ @Karmakin Apr 24
          Replying to @redlianak @iamcuriousblue

          I bet they were. (Not sarcasm). I'm not sure this is the same thing 'tho. These people are the "losers" in one of the main way that our society measures success and failure. I think the best we can do is try to help them not be "losers" in this game, although that's controversial

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        6. Liana Kerzner (Princess Sparklemuffin)‏Verified account @redlianak Apr 24
          Replying to @Karmakin @iamcuriousblue

          Thing is, this particular group were a bunch of sci fi nerds, so they were "losers" overcompensating.

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        2. Just Lyle 🎮 🐊‏ @Lyde15 Apr 24
          Replying to @iamcuriousblue @redlianak

          I just hopped over to the Incel sub on Reddit to see how they were taking this. This is how they think. https://www.reddit.com/r/Braincels/comments/8em3ya/remember_normies_the_blood_of_toronto_victims_is/ …

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        3. Liana Kerzner (Princess Sparklemuffin)‏Verified account @redlianak Apr 24
          Replying to @Lyde15 @iamcuriousblue

          Yeah that looks familiar. Big piece that's missing is that they assume that a handful of women represent the opinions of ALL women. Also, getting them to define "nice guys" tends to be instructive.

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