Ambedkar had post-enlightenment (Western) ideals.. these are temporarily unfashionable, but they will hopefully be back with more local ownership and less colonial admixture :)
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Replying to @omarali50 @Advaidism
I am all for Hindu enlightenment and want Indian society it to be like western one (liberal and casteless, with healthy respect to those who are religious) but I also see fundoos from Islam piggybacking on liberals here to kick Hindu orthodoxy while not allowing moderating Islam
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Replying to @sourabh_hyd @Advaidism
You CAN thread this needle.. and many Muslims may join you. OTOH, things could just get worse.. I guess we will see.
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Lol where has this needle been threaded? It has pushed Europe back to the right instead. Delusions!
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Ja, it has pushed them to the Right. But what if Britain, Germany etc all survive, with a Muslim population that is integrated enough for guvmint work? You think that is not possible? (I think it is likely, not just possible, tho there will be messiness getting there..)
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Replying to @omarali50 @i_contemplate_ and
My "optimism" (of sorts, I actually expect a fair amount of trouble, but not fatal trouble) is based on the thought that Islamdom itself is in flux, postmodern liberalism (too incoherent to survive) is in flux, everything is a moving target...
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Right what you'll get after all of this is not liberalism.
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That's OK. A rose by any other name
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Nah the ONLY chance liberalism has is to go Singaporean.
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we will see. I think you are too pessimistic :)
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That's the optimistic scenario. I wouldn't mind Singapore.
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