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    1. manasataramgini‏ @blog_supplement Feb 7

      I studied that Canadian psych professor Peterson and his paleo-Abrahmistic associates a little more.I've not read his books but spent the time on some representative videos. Many selfhelp books are written but it is notable that this is evoking much interest in the Abrahamosphere

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    2. manasataramgini‏ @blog_supplement Feb 7

      It is clear that he&his associates belong to a part of a spectrum of thinkers in the Abrahamosphere who are quite in agreement with the importance of grounding things in Biology. A malla rAjIva would call it the "digestion of biology". But there have been such before. What makes

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    3. manasataramgini‏ @blog_supplement Feb 7

      this group distinct is their clear sophistication in different directions over their predecessors in this department. Peterson himself is strong in the domain of long-form speech, symbolic analysis of myth/legend & a willingness to accept the importance of religion. Secularized

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    4. manasataramgini‏ @blog_supplement Feb 7

      modern offshoots of abrahamism have left a fraction of the mlechCha elite with a problem of robustness. They look particularly bankrupt& flaccid before Mohammad's strain of meme. In this void it looked as quiverful-types might have expanded in the big mlechChaland. But Peterson

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    5. manasataramgini‏ @blog_supplement Feb 7

      & his cohorts, if the movement survives the internal conflicts, might offer an alternative framework for the elites. This would be an expansively "digesting" Abrahamism which will incorporate a lot into its framework from other systems and market it as its own. These might also

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    6. manasataramgini‏ @blog_supplement Feb 7

      generally strengthen this strain of Abrahamism at the intellectual level though it is as yet unclear if it might offer it any fertility advantage. It would be interesting to see what parallels such movements might have in the H world and what quality they comparatively possess

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      npc_respecter‏ @i_contemplate_ Feb 7
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      He seems sympathetic to Bauddhamata as well. Also curious how much Jungian stuff is Hindu derived. He'd potentially be open to acknowledging it.

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        2. manasataramgini‏ @blog_supplement Feb 7
          Replying to @i_contemplate_

          Yes Peterson seems to be grounded deeply in Jung, as J himself admitted he was interested in combining the biological and the religious. Jung did admit in his writings the influence of his travel to the desh where he nearly died. He says that Hindu philosophical ideas on

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        3. manasataramgini‏ @blog_supplement Feb 7
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          consciousness (specifically Atman as opposed to bauddha anAtman) where important for psychology as he understood. But for H like me I can access these in original from the root sources and tradition hence the versions filtering through the intuitive but technically unsound lens

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        4. manasataramgini‏ @blog_supplement Feb 7
          Replying to @blog_supplement @i_contemplate_

          of Jung look jejune. However, it does seem these ideas transmitted by Jung have had influence on Peterson but are now placed by him in an Abrahamistic framework though as you say in the talk I heard he did acknowledge the buddha. I don't know if the deeper source of Jung's ideas

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        5. manasataramgini‏ @blog_supplement Feb 7
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          matter to Peterson

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        6. npc_respecter‏ @i_contemplate_ Feb 7
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          Arya what should a westernized H like me read to get a taste of the original?

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        7. manasataramgini‏ @blog_supplement Feb 7
          Replying to @i_contemplate_

          V.difficult to give you a crisp answer simply because somethings are acquired only be reading a lot of stuff often in original. It again depends on you interest: a lot of philosophy can be dry. But the simple ans I'd give is read the mahAbharata: say Ganguli's translation

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        8. npc_respecter‏ @i_contemplate_ Feb 7
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          Ah dhanyavaad.

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