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    1. manasataramgini‏ @blog_supplement Aug 23

      origin, i.e. making their own food,was critical for their spread and colonization of rocky planets like earth. But we posit that any biological system will attain stability only with the emergence of some type of predator and these likely emerged even before the autotrophs first

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    2. manasataramgini‏ @blog_supplement Aug 23

      evolved. Thus, predation was integral to the existence of life itself. Mammals have evolved from predatory ancestors. The common ancestor of primates was likely an omnivore with a serious insect component to their diet. The ancestral Homo was an omnivore with a serious predatory

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    3. manasataramgini‏ @blog_supplement Aug 23

      capacity that made many other animals become extinct as Homo spread. So the default state for man is meat-eating. Due to variety of ecological, religious and cultural reasons different degrees of vegetarianism emerged in human groups like the Hindus. There is nothing more evolved

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    4. manasataramgini‏ @blog_supplement Aug 23

      or less evolved about being a vegetarian though & the Hindu shAstra-s do not assume that even brAhmaNa-s would be a pure vegetarian – they were not. However, for cultural reasons impinging on popular religion a serious fraction of them became vegetarian.That is how it was until

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    5. manasataramgini‏ @blog_supplement Aug 23

      not long ago.The dietary laws in the shAstra-s mostly apply for the Arya varNa-s and don't have much or any bearing on what other Hindus eat. Likewise,the brAhmaNa dietary strictures have little bearing on others diet and need no universalization or special religious explanation.

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    6. manasataramgini‏ @blog_supplement Aug 23

      I am aware that several H vaishya-s are also quite particular on vegetarian diets. Why brAhmaNa-s might be suspicious of their ilk eating meat in modern times outside of a religious context is that it usually comes with a constellation of memes that are inimical to the core

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    7. manasataramgini‏ @blog_supplement Aug 23

      aspects of V1 traditions.

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    8. npc_respecter‏ @i_contemplate_ Aug 24
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      Agreed with all of this. Amazing explanation and eminently sensible. Now I wonder why the cow veneration did not stay with other Indo Europeans?

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    9. manasataramgini‏ @blog_supplement Aug 24
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      One thing to be understood is that cow veneration while ancestral to the Indo-Europeans -- seen in Germanics, Greeks, Iranians at least in specific terms it did not mean that bovine was not sacrificed among the Indo-Europeans. Probably the cow itself being needed for bull might

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    10. manasataramgini‏ @blog_supplement Aug 24
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      have not been sacrificed but the male/castrato was. It was in many ways a costly sacrifice to show to the gods that you are giving them something you serious care for. However, I think the utter disregard for the animal stemmed from Abrahamistic influences

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      npc_respecter‏ @i_contemplate_ Aug 24
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      So there was a shared veneration. I'm guessing in jambudvipa it coalesced further into a strict taboo due to the usefulness of bovines on the Gangetic plains, relative to the other domains of Indo Europeans?

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        2. manasataramgini‏ @blog_supplement Aug 24
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          That's possible: intensive farming saw much greater value for live bovines than a quick meal which will not last long. We know from archaeology that the pre-Aryan denizens of southern India herded cattle but did eat them. There is no genetic evidence for them using their milk

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        3. manasataramgini‏ @blog_supplement Aug 24
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          directly, though they might have made curds.

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        4. npc_respecter‏ @i_contemplate_ Aug 24
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          Thank you.

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