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    1. M_Methuselah‏ @M_Methuselah Jul 26

      Let's look at how you measure "behavior," and whether it can be considered agnostic of ideological affiliation. You have data regarding how many times someone gets blocked. How many reports people are implicated in. How many "negative interactions" someone engages in.

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    2. M_Methuselah‏ @M_Methuselah Jul 26

      Now look at the existence of mass block lists that are based on arbitrary criteria (usually related to political purity) and are widely employed in some circles. Look at who is most likely to report others, and whether this is based on behavior or politically aligned content.

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    3. M_Methuselah‏ @M_Methuselah Jul 26

      Look at how "negative interactions" are measured, and whether standards are based on people who already agree with each other. Who is more likely to interact with people they disagree with, and who is more likely to insulate themselves and block people at the drop of a hat?

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    4. M_Methuselah‏ @M_Methuselah Jul 26

      You're not just punishing "conservatives." You're punishing people who ask questions. Who disagree with the assumptions that are being made within academia, politics, and silicon valley. Who have negative interactions with people who don't want to hear it, and get blocked for it.

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    5. M_Methuselah‏ @M_Methuselah Jul 26

      I'm blocked by thousands of people that I've never interacted with. You claim to be sorting people based on "behavior," but I'm willing to bet that all of your data proxies for "behavior" are easily gamed by aggregate political action, and you're unwilling to look at how.

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    6. M_Methuselah‏ @M_Methuselah Jul 26

      Every time that you have to walk back, clarify, or specify your way out of the supposedly nonexistent political shadowbanning policy, you look more and more culpable. You're either lying, or you're too incompetent to comprehend the full effects of the system that you engineered.

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    7. npc_respecter‏ @i_contemplate_ Jul 26
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      Well it's more than that. They literally have a 'Trust and Safety Council' that works on the kookiest assumptions in social psychology, gender studies etc and is staffed with SJWs.

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    8. M_Methuselah‏ @M_Methuselah Jul 26
      Replying to @i_contemplate_

      Definitely. The bias is "institutional," as they would say. I was trying to demonstrate that Jack's position was untenable from even the most charitable interpretation of Twitter policies, but it's clearly much worse in practice when you factor in things like that.

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    9. npc_respecter‏ @i_contemplate_ Jul 26
      Replying to @M_Methuselah

      Indeed, and this is happening at the same time that 'AI ethics' wankers are hand-waving about 'algorithm bias' but by which they mean correct predictions which don't go the way they want. As usual, the left projects its own sins onto the other side.

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    10. M_Methuselah‏ @M_Methuselah Jul 26
      Replying to @i_contemplate_

      You've probably already seen this, but it's a good primer on the problem from the data side.https://jacobitemag.com/2017/08/29/a-i-bias-doesnt-mean-what-journalists-want-you-to-think-it-means/ …

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      npc_respecter‏ @i_contemplate_ Jul 26
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      Yep and @stucchio battling with the zombie hordes of Hacker News is great as well -> https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=yummyfajitas …

      5:09 PM - 26 Jul 2018
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