Lightning is unforgeable forever-redeemable gold certificates to Bitcoin's gold.
* also unforgeable forever-redeemable silver certificates to Litecoin's silver 
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LN is analogous to RSK SBTC in that it has a 1to1 peg w bitcoin but functions on a different network and needs to be converted to and from with an associated cost. Like SBTC there are benefits to it over BTC. /1
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Replying to @paullinator @MrHodl and
But it will be stored and shown in a wallet, accepted by various parties, and potentially valued at different amounts than BTC. Hence its strong similarities to an altcoin. Doesn’t mean it won’t be a very valuable altcoin but time will tell /2
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Replying to @paullinator @MrHodl and
Paul I'm sorry but you're reinventing the meanings of words. I watched the Facebook Live video, I agree that the tech is different (has different usecases also), but it's not an altcoin in any way. Not even remotely.
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Replying to @udiWertheimer @MrHodl and
This industry is dynamically changing and new paradigms appearing. Words are being created and redefined and that’s to be expected. If a strong case can be made for the altered definition then so be it.
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Replying to @paullinator @MrHodl and
No one is using this definition. It's just you. Nice marketing stunt, but I don't see where the "strong case" is. You could've used words with meanings that people actually use. Like: "No we won't be supporting LN soon. It's a ton of work and we don't see enough demand yet".
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Replying to @udiWertheimer @MrHodl and
Analogies help people understand concepts. The analogy of an altcoin is very strong. Your wallet will have to show you two balances, one in BTC and one in LN. When you spend, you’ll have to pick one. When you receive you’ll have to specify which to go into. /1
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Replying to @paullinator @udiWertheimer and
Paul, I think you're mixing abstraction layers. At the consensus layer of the protocol, it very much is NOT an altcoin under any common usage of the term even if in the UI balances are displayed similarly.
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Yes. Another way to look at it is LN is a derivative of an asset (BTC), while altcoins *are* the assets. Saying LN is the same as altcoins because they have similar UI is like saying derivatives are the same as assets because they both have a price tag. Similar UI != sameness.
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Replying to @hugohanoi @eric_lombrozo and
I'd say that everything that is redeemable for BTC in a completely trustless and uncensorable manner is equivalent to BTC. BTC in LN channels is such a case. Altcoins (and even things like Rootstock) on the other hand don't satisfy these properties, so they are not Bitcoin.
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