Not quite, @el33th4xor is still wrong. Staking *itself* requires little to no energy expenditure. Emin is confusing the creation of value (internally) from the *transfer* of value.
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PoS stake is not an equivalent of this, there’s nothing “unforgeable” about transferring financial capital into a dubious asset. Long range attacks is one example of how moving wealth into an asset does not make it unforgeable.
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It’s fine if you don’t want to engage, but at least we can agree on 2 things in this thread: 1/ Labor theory of value is invalid 2/ Energy expenditure AND unforgeability are required ingredients for money
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Where we differ is for (2), you think PoS expends energy (which is kinda ironic given that the common argument for PoS is that it does NOT expend energy) and unforgeable. Both I disagree with.
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