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Interests: China+ML, natsec+tech, brains+words+absurdity | Current: CSET / Center for Security and Emerging Technology (opinions my own) | Former: @open_phil

cset.georgetown.edu
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    Helen Toner‏ @hlntnr Jan 16

    Thread of musings on sth I noticed recently: conversations about how we might find meaning in a post-work world heavily feature music and art... but I can't remember sports being mentioned even once. How come, when it provides so much meaning/community/joy to so many people? 1/5

    10:22 AM - 16 Jan 2019
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      2. Helen Toner‏ @hlntnr Jan 16

        Obvious answer is obvious: sports aren't mentioned because these discussions are being had by Serious Intellectuals with Serious Intellectual tastes. It's a shame though - such a good way to channel our instincts for tribalism & physical competition, especially of young men. 2/5

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      3. Helen Toner‏ @hlntnr Jan 16

        In general I wish there were more exploration (e.g. in fiction) of rich, meaningful ways we might spend time, make meaning, build communities etc in the future. From the perspective of 100 years ago, our current team sports system could seem like an example of this... 3/5

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      4. Helen Toner‏ @hlntnr Jan 16

        Think about it: millions of fans bond with family/friends over matches beamed to their house from hundreds/thousands of miles away. Big celebrations spill into the streets as outpourings of joy and connection. There's hope, loyalty, excitement, strategy, pride, exultation. 4/5

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      5. Helen Toner‏ @hlntnr Jan 16

        Obviously there aren't zero harms - riots and fights happen, both among players and fans. But compared to so many other options (e.g. intertribal/gang/schoolyard fights), seems like a very high ratio of meaningfulness+connection : violence+hate. Let's make more+better sports! 5/5

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      2. David Kotsonis‏ @picklepikkl Jan 18
        Replying to @hlntnr @KelseyTuoc

        @Ada_Palmer's Terra Ignota books, which are set in a largely post-work world, feature the Humanists, who prize excellence and seem to hold sports in equal honor to art.

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      3. hamiltonianurst‏ @hamiltonianurst Jan 18
        Replying to @picklepikkl @hlntnr and

        Was literally just about to reply with this.

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      4. Ada Palmer‏Verified account @Ada_Palmer Jan 18
        Replying to @hamiltonianurst @picklepikkl and

        Here’s to the 2454 Olympics in Esperanza City Antarctica!

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      5. hamiltonianurst‏ @hamiltonianurst Jan 18
        Replying to @Ada_Palmer @picklepikkl and

        That's exactly where I am in WtB!

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      1. tragic the gathering‏ @aer0knot Apr 9
        Replying to @hlntnr

        just had to jump in here with the 17776 football project. a beautiful, playful post-work fiction, featuring sports on an enormous scale:https://www.sbnation.com/a/17776-football …

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      1. Matt‏ @Mjreard Apr 9
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        Did someone mention art?https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1td63w 

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      1. Ale‏ @DH754800 Apr 10
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        Don't forget the positive health impact if everyone does more sports!

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