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Tactical consciousness is better than sanity. Sanity is for societies, and I am not part of any society, nor would I suffer one to live in my presence.

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    1. Dan Garfield‏ @danlistensto Oct 22
      Replying to @danlistensto @hikikomorphism and

      chilling effects are a real thing. the CoC is intended to chill certain types of speech (which is probably a good thing) but it's a blunt instrument and I'm far too Hobbesian in my worldview to trust any organization to be able to utilize this blunt instrument forever.

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    2. Dan Garfield‏ @danlistensto Oct 22
      Replying to @danlistensto @hikikomorphism and

      the really nasty things about written codes is that they become more and more difficult to dislodge and revise once adopted, even after clear problems emerge. orgs that don't yet have a problem due to their CoC are still operating with a risk codified into their org rules.

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    3. Dan Garfield‏ @danlistensto Oct 22
      Replying to @danlistensto @hikikomorphism and

      so the question remains: what is to be done in cases where some org members behave badly? I can't think of any better solutions that handling things on a case-by-case basis and stop LARPing justice court. There's no due process here. This isn't a court and nobody is a judge.

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    4. hikikomorphism 🏝 🛰️‏ @hikikomorphism Oct 22
      Replying to @danlistensto @sonyaellenmann @lordcataplanga

      there's a pretty well known failure mode there, though: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Tyranny_of_Structurelessness …

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    5.  🤖 Sonya Mann  🎀‏Verified account @sonyaellenmann Oct 22
      Replying to @hikikomorphism @danlistensto @lordcataplanga

      Chiming back in — I think CoCs can be useful to set expectations and give community members a pathway for redress when they're wronged. But really the quality of the leadership is what determines whether the CoC will be a useful tool as intended, or a bludgeon

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    6. hikikomorphism 🏝 🛰️‏ @hikikomorphism Oct 22
      Replying to @sonyaellenmann @danlistensto @lordcataplanga

      sure, nothing's a silver bullet. I just think that having _some_ CoC_ is generally better than leaving it up to opaque/informal hierarchies

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    7. national football league of the divine wind‏ @kushnerbomb Oct 22
      Replying to @hikikomorphism @sonyaellenmann and

      so why not a CoC that’s like 16 centuries old then? that’s lindy af, as the kids say

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    8. hikikomorphism 🏝 🛰️‏ @hikikomorphism Oct 22
      Replying to @kushnerbomb @sonyaellenmann and

      because religious discrimination is generally frowned on, even if you let people know that you'll be ignoring their transgressions for the moment

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    9. national football league of the divine wind‏ @kushnerbomb Oct 22
      Replying to @hikikomorphism @sonyaellenmann and

      So if you remove the explicitly Christian or theistic bits you’d be okay with it?

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    10. hikikomorphism 🏝 🛰️‏ @hikikomorphism Oct 22
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      hikikomorphism 🏝 🛰️‏ @hikikomorphism Oct 22
      Replying to @hikikomorphism @kushnerbomb and

      If he removed all the explicitly christian/theistic bits I'd think it was a bit odd but I'd be fine with it, adopting ancient monastic rules is kinda a cute idea

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        1.  🤖 Sonya Mann  🎀‏Verified account @sonyaellenmann Oct 22
          Replying to @hikikomorphism @kushnerbomb and

          extremely on-brand for you actually lol

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        2. national football league of the divine wind‏ @kushnerbomb Oct 22
          Replying to @hikikomorphism @sonyaellenmann and

          I think the telos of an open source project is pretty different than the telos of a Benedictine community but yeah I’m in favor

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        3. hikikomorphism 🏝 🛰️‏ @hikikomorphism Oct 22
          Replying to @kushnerbomb @sonyaellenmann and

          tbh 'this worked for many many centuries, we're going to use it as inspiration' is a great starting point for a lot of things. I'm just not on board with copying it wholesale.

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        4.  🤖 Sonya Mann  🎀‏Verified account @sonyaellenmann Oct 22
          Replying to @hikikomorphism @kushnerbomb and

          yeah, the lesson of Chesterton's Fence is "think hard about changing things and understand why the thing you're changing developed the way it did," not "never change anything ever"

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        5. Santiago Tórtora‏ @lordcataplanga Oct 22
          Replying to @sonyaellenmann @hikikomorphism and

          In that spirit, what *is* the point of the explicit Christian language in that CoC? Why not make it all secular? I don't think the author was trying to be mean and make non-Christians uncomfortable, but that's what happened. What benefit did they think was worth that risk?

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        6. hikikomorphism 🏝 🛰️‏ @hikikomorphism Oct 22
          Replying to @lordcataplanga @sonyaellenmann and

          owning the libs, probably

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        7.  🤖 Sonya Mann  🎀‏Verified account @sonyaellenmann Oct 22
          Replying to @hikikomorphism @lordcataplanga and

          apparently the dude is actually very sincerely christian but I think there's at least an element of trolling

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        8. Santiago Tórtora‏ @lordcataplanga Oct 22
          Replying to @sonyaellenmann @hikikomorphism and

          Would a sincere Christian use their own faith for irony/satire?

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        9. hikikomorphism 🏝 🛰️‏ @hikikomorphism Oct 22
          Replying to @lordcataplanga @sonyaellenmann and

          I don't think it's either, I think it's an attempt at a very minor kind of martyrdom

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