I'm a DevOps/SRE. I'm paid to think about systemic failure modes.
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Replying to @danlistensto @hikikomorphism and
chilling effects are a real thing. the CoC is intended to chill certain types of speech (which is probably a good thing) but it's a blunt instrument and I'm far too Hobbesian in my worldview to trust any organization to be able to utilize this blunt instrument forever.
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Replying to @danlistensto @hikikomorphism and
the really nasty things about written codes is that they become more and more difficult to dislodge and revise once adopted, even after clear problems emerge. orgs that don't yet have a problem due to their CoC are still operating with a risk codified into their org rules.
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Replying to @danlistensto @hikikomorphism and
so the question remains: what is to be done in cases where some org members behave badly? I can't think of any better solutions that handling things on a case-by-case basis and stop LARPing justice court. There's no due process here. This isn't a court and nobody is a judge.
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there's a pretty well known failure mode there, though: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Tyranny_of_Structurelessness …
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Chiming back in — I think CoCs can be useful to set expectations and give community members a pathway for redress when they're wronged. But really the quality of the leadership is what determines whether the CoC will be a useful tool as intended, or a bludgeon
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sure, nothing's a silver bullet. I just think that having _some_ CoC_ is generally better than leaving it up to opaque/informal hierarchies
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Replying to @hikikomorphism @sonyaellenmann and
so why not a CoC that’s like 16 centuries old then? that’s lindy af, as the kids say
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Replying to @kushnerbomb @sonyaellenmann and
because religious discrimination is generally frowned on, even if you let people know that you'll be ignoring their transgressions for the moment
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Replying to @hikikomorphism @kushnerbomb and
as someone very scared by slippery slopes I think this is a legit general point, regardless of whether it applies to the sqlite devs in particular
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I mean, if he sincerely wanted to not alienate everyone who's not a christian he could've just trimmed it to only include the secular rules. They were included for a reason.
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