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    1. hikikomorphism 🏝 🛰️‏ @hikikomorphism Oct 22
      Replying to @lordcataplanga @danlistensto @sonyaellenmann

      can you elaborate on that? I think there is a nontrivial cost to overreaching CoC statements that, eg, explicitly state that they'll only punish certain kinds of racism, but I'm not sure how this case would qualify.

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    2.  🤖 Sonya Mann  🎀‏Verified account @sonyaellenmann Oct 22
      Replying to @hikikomorphism @lordcataplanga @danlistensto

      I think it's what Dan said about finding the whole cluster of attitudes and norms offputting

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    3. hikikomorphism 🏝 🛰️‏ @hikikomorphism Oct 22
      Replying to @sonyaellenmann @lordcataplanga @danlistensto

      It seems like the secular equivalent of freaking out because you see someone wearing a turban and you think that foreshadows the immediate imposition of sharia law. That's valid if there's a bunch of them in pickups w/ AK's (analogy left as exercise for reader), but usually not

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    4. Dan Garfield‏ @danlistensto Oct 22
      Replying to @hikikomorphism @sonyaellenmann @lordcataplanga

      well, no, I don't think that's a fair analogy at all. the fact is we have at least some observed behavior of CoCs being used in a divisive and destructive fashion. it's not a case of mistaken identity to associate those pushing CoCs with those abusing CoCs for political games.

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    5. Dan Garfield‏ @danlistensto Oct 22
      Replying to @danlistensto @hikikomorphism and

      obviously its not a 1-for-1 relationship. there are those advocating for CoCs who are absolutely not going to abuse them. how small of a disruptive minor faction does it take to ruin things for everyone though? not very many it turns out.

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    6. hikikomorphism 🏝 🛰️‏ @hikikomorphism Oct 22
      Replying to @danlistensto @sonyaellenmann @lordcataplanga

      I'm not at all convinced there's enough to be suspicious of the whole project. Concern about collateral damage, sure. But as far as I can tell it's more of 'useful tool with some isolated cases of abuse' than 'pretext for abuse with the occasional reasonable use'

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    7. Dan Garfield‏ @danlistensto Oct 22
      Replying to @hikikomorphism @sonyaellenmann @lordcataplanga

      I'm a DevOps/SRE. I'm paid to think about systemic failure modes.

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    8. Dan Garfield‏ @danlistensto Oct 22
      Replying to @danlistensto @hikikomorphism and

      chilling effects are a real thing. the CoC is intended to chill certain types of speech (which is probably a good thing) but it's a blunt instrument and I'm far too Hobbesian in my worldview to trust any organization to be able to utilize this blunt instrument forever.

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    9. Dan Garfield‏ @danlistensto Oct 22
      Replying to @danlistensto @hikikomorphism and

      the really nasty things about written codes is that they become more and more difficult to dislodge and revise once adopted, even after clear problems emerge. orgs that don't yet have a problem due to their CoC are still operating with a risk codified into their org rules.

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    10. Dan Garfield‏ @danlistensto Oct 22
      Replying to @danlistensto @hikikomorphism and

      so the question remains: what is to be done in cases where some org members behave badly? I can't think of any better solutions that handling things on a case-by-case basis and stop LARPing justice court. There's no due process here. This isn't a court and nobody is a judge.

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      hikikomorphism 🏝 🛰️‏ @hikikomorphism Oct 22
      Replying to @danlistensto @sonyaellenmann @lordcataplanga

      there's a pretty well known failure mode there, though: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Tyranny_of_Structurelessness …

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        2.  🤖 Sonya Mann  🎀‏Verified account @sonyaellenmann Oct 22
          Replying to @hikikomorphism @danlistensto @lordcataplanga

          Chiming back in — I think CoCs can be useful to set expectations and give community members a pathway for redress when they're wronged. But really the quality of the leadership is what determines whether the CoC will be a useful tool as intended, or a bludgeon

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        3. hikikomorphism 🏝 🛰️‏ @hikikomorphism Oct 22
          Replying to @sonyaellenmann @danlistensto @lordcataplanga

          sure, nothing's a silver bullet. I just think that having _some_ CoC_ is generally better than leaving it up to opaque/informal hierarchies

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        4. national football league of the divine wind‏ @kushnerbomb Oct 22
          Replying to @hikikomorphism @sonyaellenmann and

          so why not a CoC that’s like 16 centuries old then? that’s lindy af, as the kids say

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        5. hikikomorphism 🏝 🛰️‏ @hikikomorphism Oct 22
          Replying to @kushnerbomb @sonyaellenmann and

          because religious discrimination is generally frowned on, even if you let people know that you'll be ignoring their transgressions for the moment

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        6.  🤖 Sonya Mann  🎀‏Verified account @sonyaellenmann Oct 22
          Replying to @hikikomorphism @kushnerbomb and

          as someone very scared by slippery slopes I think this is a legit general point, regardless of whether it applies to the sqlite devs in particular

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        7. hikikomorphism 🏝 🛰️‏ @hikikomorphism Oct 22
          Replying to @sonyaellenmann @kushnerbomb and

          I mean, if he sincerely wanted to not alienate everyone who's not a christian he could've just trimmed it to only include the secular rules. They were included for a reason.

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        2. Dan Garfield‏ @danlistensto Oct 22
          Replying to @hikikomorphism @sonyaellenmann @lordcataplanga

          dunno bout "well known" but it's a valid criticism in any case. you pick your poisons. i choose less structure over more structure. i think the downsides are more manageable and the systems are less prone to becoming entangled in Machiavellian political struggles.

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        3. hikikomorphism 🏝 🛰️‏ @hikikomorphism Oct 22
          Replying to @danlistensto @sonyaellenmann @lordcataplanga

          IMHO when everything's informal/uncodified you end up with _more_ power struggles, uneven application of informally-defined rules based on who's popular, etc

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        4. Santiago Tórtora‏ @lordcataplanga Oct 22
          Replying to @hikikomorphism @danlistensto @sonyaellenmann

          You have more struggles but each struggle is lower-stakes, less likely to tear the community apart. But I can see good reasons why "you have to tolerate some oppression for the good of the group" doesn't really comfort anyone.

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