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    your friend Helen is at XOXO‏Verified account @hels Jan 19

    Sent an inquiry to a hotel I might be including in a reported story for a major mag, they responded asking me to fill out their "influencer stay form," and I ... I just ... I don't evenpic.twitter.com/MRktBINHAB

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      2. your friend Helen is at XOXO‏Verified account @hels Jan 19

        The fact that there is no option for "actually it's a print magazine" is the LEAST of the problems here

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      3. your friend Helen is at XOXO‏Verified account @hels Jan 19

        Every time I learn more about the influencer economy I am mind-blown. You'd think I'd have learned by now.

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      2. Mike‏ @Robot_Bastard Jan 19
        Replying to @hels @Jon_Christian

        I don't understand why you're upset. All of that seems entirely reasonable to ask someone who said "I plan to describe you in a news story". I'd probably ask that sort of stuff of you myself and I'm just some dude on the internet!

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      3. your friend Helen is at XOXO‏Verified account @hels Jan 19
        Replying to @Robot_Bastard @Jon_Christian

        You think it's reasonable to tell them the monetary value to them of writing a story about them? It's reasonable for them to demand at least one insta/instastory per day? That they think they need to ask for permission to share a link to the story?

        7 replies 0 retweets 34 likes
      4. Mike‏ @Robot_Bastard Jan 19
        Replying to @hels

        ...yes? It's entirely possible that a company posting on social media about someone else's work could be considered republication, which requires rights in advance to avoid lawsuits about IP rights violation.

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      5. your friend Helen is at XOXO‏Verified account @hels Jan 19
        Replying to @Robot_Bastard

        That's absolutely not remotely true

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      6. Mike‏ @Robot_Bastard Jan 19
        Replying to @hels

        Have you actually *never* had to fill out a form giving someone republication or reprint rights to your work? *Never* had to deal with someone just taking your stuff and reprinting it without asking?

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      7. your friend Helen is at XOXO‏Verified account @hels Jan 19
        Replying to @Robot_Bastard

        Reprinting isn't the same as linking or referencing. They're not asking for reprint permission, they're asking for link permission — which, under 1a and fair use, is not remotely required.

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      8. Mike‏ @Robot_Bastard Jan 19
        Replying to @hels

        People can, have, and do sue over links to things, and "well the Fair Use Amendment Or Something" doesn't actually *stop* a lawsuit being filed. Or maybe they're just being polite and asking for permission to use your work, and here you are being Mad Online about it.

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      9. your friend Helen is at XOXO‏Verified account @hels Jan 19
        Replying to @Robot_Bastard

        cool, whatever, have fun being the guy who really cares about defending stupid shit, I'm going to do other things now

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      2. Rosa Maria‏ @rosamquijada Jan 19
        Replying to @hels

        And this is one of the reasons why... And btw, I totally agree... https://www.facebook.com/WhiteMooseCafe/posts/2048406742106598 …

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      3. O C Chef Girl‏ @O_C_Chef_Girl Jan 19
        Replying to @rosamquijada @hels

        They decided that “influencers” and “bloggers” would be vetted. I don’t blame them. This world has turned into a What can you do for me!? culture that doesn’t respect business. As a Personal Chef I’m frequently asked by wealthy people to cater for free. And it’s a no.

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      2. Gowri Chandra‏ @gowri_chandra Jan 19
        Replying to @hels

        I write for a little mag called the New Yorker maybe you've heard of it

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      3. Doug Ellice‏ @DVEllice Jan 19
        Replying to @gowri_chandra @hels

        Don't be surprised if they haven't.

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      1. Greg Greene‏ @ggreeneva Jan 19
        Replying to @hels

        It … it reads like a payola accounting worksheet. 👀

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      1. Caroline Jennings‏ @carocolejen Jan 19
        Replying to @hels

        Oy. From a former travel PR flack, I will say that many of these responses are automated from the major hotel chains. If you aren't requesting a comp you should never have received this. If you emailed their press email and this is their response... well, yikes.

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      1. Madeline Muzzi‏ @MadelineMuzzi Jan 19
        Replying to @hels

        Kindly estimate your personal worth for us in USD, thank you

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      2. Alexa GW‏ @alexagwagner Jan 19
        Replying to @hels

        It sounds like whoever is in charge over there doesn't understand the difference between PR and news reporting.

        2 replies 0 retweets 9 likes
      3. Cole Yearwood‏ @coleyearwood Jan 19
        Replying to @alexagwagner @hels

        In fairness, do you think a majority of the public recognizes a difference anymore?

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