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    1. owen cyclops  🦇 🧠‏ @WesternIdentity Apr 13

      there are two different types of "esoteric" spiritual teachings. one is the kind we see in secret societies and the occult, the other is found in almost all religions, and there is a huge difference between them. in fact the difference between them could not be more extreme.

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    2. owen cyclops  🦇 🧠‏ @WesternIdentity Apr 13

      the first kind is secret teachings. information that is intentionally concealed from the masses and only given to a set group of people slowly over time after layers of initiation. this is common in: - freemasonry and secret societies - tantric buddhism - the occult in general

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    3. owen cyclops  🦇 🧠‏ @WesternIdentity Apr 13

      in these spiritual disciplines fundamental aspects of the worldview and their basic posits about the nature of reality, the divine sphere, and the material you are working with are kept hidden from you and others by elders until they deem that you are ready for it.

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    4. owen cyclops  🦇 🧠‏ @WesternIdentity Apr 13

      the other kind of esoteric information is information that, for whatever reason, you cannot understand at this moment. it is not intentionally concealed from you, it is only concealed by your own inability to comprehend it. let me give an illustration of this.

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    5. owen cyclops  🦇 🧠‏ @WesternIdentity Apr 13

      if i get a new car, and my friend asks me about where I got it, and for whatever reason I don't think I should tell him, i can conceal this information from him. this is the first kind of secret info.

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    6. owen cyclops  🦇 🧠‏ @WesternIdentity Apr 13

      now, if im with a little kid and they ask me how the engine works, I can point blank explain it, but they wont understand. the information is hidden from them by virtue of their own level of understanding. nothing is being kept from them, they just "naturally" dont get it.

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    7. owen cyclops  🦇 🧠‏ @WesternIdentity Apr 13

      these two things are completely different, yet we tend to think of them as the same. jesus spoke in esoteric parables but this was only to allow his teaching to reach people who werent able to "get it" outright. this is radically different than intentionally concealing key info.

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    8. owen cyclops  🦇 🧠‏ @WesternIdentity Apr 13

      i have come to the conclusion that systems and teachers that engage in this first type of esoterica are, at best, wrong and extremely dangerous for many reasons. the student cant even know what theyre getting into at the outset [because] the ultimate teachings are secret.

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    9. owen cyclops  🦇 🧠‏ @WesternIdentity Apr 13

      it requires a level of trusting men that is unhealthy imo, plus you may unknowingly be signing up for something that is not what you thought it was. "secret" systems seem almost designed to promote powertripping + spiritual materialism, which they typically showcase in abundance

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    10. owen cyclops  🦇 🧠‏ @WesternIdentity Apr 13

      we are like children attempting to understand things far beyond our comprehension so some things will be concealed from us, but this does not justify men intentionally concealing facts about humanity, god, + divinity from other men. this is simply wrong no matter how you slice it

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      heli✺s‏ @helioshellfire Apr 14
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      Knowledge should not be concealed but true knowledge cannot be shared.

      1:54 PM - 14 Apr 2018
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