@PoisonAero yup. #IronyAlert (a strong, reciprocal altruism has in this case.) (@Outsideness see? now people are starting to understand!)
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@Outsideness a penguin in a desert will not be fit. a penguin with diseased flippers has an impairment. -
@hbdchick Penguins are pathologically maladapted to deserts. Diseased flippers don't help. -
@Outsideness no such term as, or concept of, pathological maladaptation. but, like i said, if it catches on, we can submit it to OED. (~_^) -
@hbdchick@Outsideness Maladaptation = pathological adaptation, e.g., learning wrong lessons from experience, e.g., dogmatic universalism. -
@HobbesianM no. a mismatched trait is *not* a "pathological maladaptation." it is a mismatched trait. -
@hbdchick "pathological maladaptation" is not a phrase I used. Dogmatic universalism is not a "mismatched trait"; it's a mistake. -
@hbdchick Not that universalism is a bad idea; being too dogmatic about it is, as in modern PC-ness. I don't think that was ever adaptive. -
@HobbesianM well, i think it was, 2-3+ hundred years ago or so in nw europe. (not 1000 years ago. didn't exist yet then.)
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@hbdchick You really want to define "impairment" in complete independence of biological fitness (in its evolutionary sense)? -
@Outsideness no. but severe impairment gets weeded out at the level of the individual, of course. a whole pop will not be impaired. -
@hbdchick What's a "whole population"? A species? A sub-species? The evolutionary dynamic is fractal. A sub-species can certainly be lost. -
@hbdchick ... The further you push into deep time, the more brutal the pruning looks. There's no natural scale of selection. -
@Outsideness yup. i was suspecting this was part of the problem. selection happens at the individual (or even gene) level. (cc.@JayMan471) -
@Outsideness i'm not going to debate that point with you now. not enough time today. (^_^)@JayMan471
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