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    1.  🎃 💀haunted chick 💀 🎃‏ @hbdchick 14 Feb 2016
      Replying to @PoisonAero

      @PoisonAero yup. #IronyAlert (a strong, reciprocal altruism has in this case.) (@Outsideness see? now people are starting to understand!)

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    2. Poison Aero‏ @PoisonAero 14 Feb 2016
      Replying to @hbdchick

      @hbdchick @Outsideness that makes it pathological. But it isn't "altruism" anyway. It is a signaling tragedy of the commons.

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    3.  🎃 💀haunted chick 💀 🎃‏ @hbdchick 14 Feb 2016
      Replying to @PoisonAero

      @PoisonAero no, that doesn't make it pathological. reciprocal altruism is an adaptation, not something cause by disease. @Outsideness

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    4. Outsideness‏ @Outsideness 14 Feb 2016
      Replying to @hbdchick

      @hbdchick @PoisonAero It's an extinct adaptation. And I thought we'd already shelved the disease thing. (Is cancer not pathological?)

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    5.  🎃 💀haunted chick 💀 🎃‏ @hbdchick 14 Feb 2016
      Replying to @Outsideness

      @Outsideness we can't shelve the disease thing if you keep using the word pathological. (~_^) most cancers prolly are in part pathological.

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    6. Outsideness‏ @Outsideness 14 Feb 2016
      Replying to @hbdchick

      @hbdchick I agree that to talk about "altruism disease" would be misleading. (Though not in terms of the classical meaning of disease.) ...

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    7. Outsideness‏ @Outsideness 14 Feb 2016
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      @hbdchick Pathological =/= diseased. See #2 definition: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/pathology …

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    8. Outsideness‏ @Outsideness 14 Feb 2016
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      @hbdchick .. Still better line of confrontation, disease =/= infection, see basically anywhere. Wikipedia does fine: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disease 

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    9.  🎃 💀haunted chick 💀 🎃‏ @hbdchick 14 Feb 2016
      Replying to @Outsideness

      @Outsideness right. but you're claiming that the AVERAGE, typical set of behaviors of nw euro pops is diseased or abnormal or pathological.

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    10. Outsideness‏ @Outsideness 14 Feb 2016
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      @hbdchick A biological population (of whatever size) tending to extinction is TYPICALLY pathological, on simple Darwinian grounds.

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       🎃 💀haunted chick 💀 🎃‏ @hbdchick 14 Feb 2016
      Replying to @Outsideness

      @Outsideness no. not typically. that's just evolution by natural selection. nothing pathological (abnormal, diseased, etc.) about it.

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        2. President Barbicane‏ @PBarbicane 14 Feb 2016
          Replying to @hbdchick

          @hbdchick @Outsideness The malaria parasite is a product of evolution. Does that mean that there's nothing pathological about malaria? No.

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        3.  🎃 💀haunted chick 💀 🎃‏ @hbdchick 14 Feb 2016
          Replying to @PBarbicane

          @PBarbicane altruism is a behavioral trait. plasmodium falciparum is an organism. @Outsideness

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        4. President Barbicane‏ @PBarbicane 14 Feb 2016
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          @hbdchick @Outsideness Yes.

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        5.  🎃 💀haunted chick 💀 🎃‏ @hbdchick 14 Feb 2016
          Replying to @PBarbicane

          @PBarbicane i didn't say that evolution can't result in organisms that can cause pathologies. obviously it can! just the *average*...

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        6.  🎃 💀haunted chick 💀 🎃‏ @hbdchick 14 Feb 2016
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          @PBarbicane ...set of behavioral traits in an entire population are not pathological.

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        7. President Barbicane‏ @PBarbicane 14 Feb 2016
          Replying to @hbdchick

          @hbdchick they could be if they're under the influence of something not present in the environment of evolutionary adaptedness.

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        8. President Barbicane‏ @PBarbicane 14 Feb 2016
          Replying to @PBarbicane

          @hbdchick Although on second thought that's probably not true in this case.

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        9. President Barbicane‏ @PBarbicane 14 Feb 2016
          Replying to @PBarbicane

          @hbdchick Although on third thought perhaps it is. I'm of two minds about it.

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        2. Outsideness‏ @Outsideness 14 Feb 2016
          Replying to @hbdchick

          @hbdchick But you're still insisting on a counter-Darwinian definition of 'pathological'. ...

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        3. Outsideness‏ @Outsideness 14 Feb 2016
          Replying to @Outsideness

          @hbdchick ... Medicine should (and will) adjust towards Darwin, not the other way around. ...

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        4. Outsideness‏ @Outsideness 14 Feb 2016
          Replying to @Outsideness

          @hbdchick ... Any fitness-independent definition of pathology is unsound, and will be corrected by evolutionary understanding.

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        5.  🎃 💀haunted chick 💀 🎃‏ @hbdchick 14 Feb 2016
          Replying to @Outsideness

          @Outsideness no. not if you understand pathology means diseased.

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        6. Outsideness‏ @Outsideness 14 Feb 2016
          Replying to @hbdchick

          @hbdchick ... and diseased means organically dysfunctional.

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