@JSBTC i think that a bad tack. if they really are hyper-universalists, then maybe point out that *they* leave some out. @DIA_operative
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@hbdchick@PuzzlePrivateer@JSBTC Maoists justify their politics by recourse to an idea of universalism for example... -
@DIA_operative yeah, but in practice, maoism is NOT universalistic! neither was soviet communism...@PuzzlePrivateer@JSBTC -
@DIA_operative ...scandinavian socialism, otoh, is a good example of true universalism. all included. really.@PuzzlePrivateer@JSBTC -
@hbdchick@PuzzlePrivateer@JSBTC Except look what's happening to Sweden.... Does universalism have to be socialist? -
@DIA_operative no. it's just a good example. yeah, i don't disagree that too much universalism can be...@PuzzlePrivateer@JSBTC -
@DIA_operative ...(currently is, imo) a problem, i'm just saying that it's not pathological. instead...@PuzzlePrivateer@JSBTC -
@DIA_operative ...it's a set of traits shaped by evolution which are *now* in a different environment.@PuzzlePrivateer@JSBTC -
@DIA_operative and i don't think labeling it "pathological" helps in understanding the problem. +the comm problems.@PuzzlePrivateer@JSBTC - 3 more replies
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@hbdchick@PuzzlePrivateer@JSBTC Right, nothing wrong with altruism per se, but universalism is an ideological notion... -
@DIA_operative no. i think universalism is just a strong form of reciprocal altruism. which nw euros got in spades!@PuzzlePrivateer@JSBTC
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