@hbdchick The old germanic legal system was awesome: you could pay wergelt to the family you offended or you could fight a duel. Or they
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@mathvsoldage yup! i've blogged about wergeld quite a bit. what's especially interesting (imo) is that in the 900s, in england anyway... -
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@mathvsoldage ...there was a shift from wergeld going to kin to wergeld going to a man's *guild*: https://hbdchick.wordpress.com/2013/10/23/the-importance-of-the-kindred-in-anglo-saxon-society/ … ... -
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@mathvsoldage ...representing the shift from "clannishness" to non-clannishness at least beginning around this time. -
@hbdchick@mathvsoldage All behavioral traits are *partially* heritable. Sudden rise in individualism from Christian ideology of the soul. -
@NickSzabo4 then why don't we see the same individualism in eastern europe?@mathvsoldage -
@hbdchick@mathvsoldage Genetics of stationary pastoralism may indirectly explain NW/SE gradient but doesn't explain sudden change. -
@hbdchick@mathvsoldage What happens suddenly is this Christian thing called conversion. - 1 more reply
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@hbdchick How much of this is epigenetic/phenotypic? Seems like it could quickly change under different environments. lord of flies scenario -
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@EuroPatriarchy none of it is "epigenetics." everything you think you know about epigenetics is bunk. http://www.wiringthebrain.com/2013/01/the-trouble-with-epigenetics-part-1.html … -
@hbdchick gotcha, but are Irish/Scottish/East Europeans as clannish when they move west? Hard to clannish if there is no longer a clan -
@EuroPatriarchy my definition of "clannishness" is kinda special: https://hbdchick.wordpress.com/2013/08/15/clannishness-defined/ … (i did that just to confuse people. (*^_^*) ) -
@EuroPatriarchy think "nepotistic" for clannishness.
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@hbdchick This "all behavioral traits are heritable"—looks like a bridge too far there. How could one determine that? - End of conversation
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@hbdchick *Most* death penalty modern offenses either didn't exist, or were settled with money as a first resort. -
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@mathvsoldage 'twas the good, old death penalty that prolly genetically pacified northern europeans, tho: http://www.academia.edu/11697941/Western_Europe_state_formation_and_genetic_pacification … maybe. - 1 more reply
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@hbdchick "must have" is logic, not science. Treating former as legit stand-in for latter has led to many problems. -
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@Jeffrey_of_Troy no fear, 'cause i don't claim to be doing science. i leave that to teh scientists. just brainstorming! (^_^) -
@hbdchick Science is too important to leave to the scientists! https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Georges_Clemenceau …
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