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    1. Kevin Mitchell‏ @WiringTheBrain 3 Jun 2014
      Replying to @JayMan471

      .@JayMan471 Top-down "causation" does not contradict laws of physics - adds another level of explanation in terms of system goals/experience

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    2. JayMan‏ @JayMan471 3 Jun 2014
      Replying to @WiringTheBrain

      .@WiringTheBrain As you are wont to say, I don't think there's any evidence for that. :) Top-down view just a useful simplification for us.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    3. Kevin Mitchell‏ @WiringTheBrain 3 Jun 2014
      Replying to @JayMan471

      @JayMan471 I disagree entirely, but 140 chars not long enough! This is good on subject: http://www.mth.uct.ac.za/~ellis/Top-down%20Ellis.pdf …

      2 replies 1 retweet 1 like
    4. JayMan‏ @JayMan471 3 Jun 2014
      Replying to @WiringTheBrain

      .@WiringTheBrain This is @michaelshermer's woo-woo, i.e. complete nonsense. The moon effect on tides as a top-down process? Macroscopic...

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    5. JayMan‏ @JayMan471 3 Jun 2014
      Replying to @JayMan471

      .@WiringTheBrain @michaelshermer ...effects depends entire on their microscopic constituents. In the case of astronomical objects, it is...

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    6. JayMan‏ @JayMan471 3 Jun 2014
      Replying to @JayMan471

      @WiringTheBrain @michaelshermer ...the vector sum of the mass of all atoms, which happens to simplify to neat little equations.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    7. Kevin Mitchell‏ @WiringTheBrain 3 Jun 2014
      Replying to @JayMan471

      @JayMan471 @michaelshermer Tides not good example. Phenomenon seen in complex hierarchical systems - does not contradict bottom-up

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    8. JayMan‏ @JayMan471 3 Jun 2014
      Replying to @WiringTheBrain

      @WiringTheBrain But all those phenomena are just the result of the action of bottom-up rules operating on that scale. Laws on macro...

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    9. JayMan‏ @JayMan471 3 Jun 2014
      Replying to @JayMan471

      @WiringTheBrain ...level emerge because these actions often simplify. Just as the case of gravity in space.

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    10. Kevin Mitchell‏ @WiringTheBrain 3 Jun 2014
      Replying to @JayMan471

      .@JayMan471 Those higher level principles do NOT emerge from lower level but are indep of it (and apply in abstract across many systems)

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       🎃 💀haunted chick 💀 🎃‏ @hbdchick 3 Jun 2014
      Replying to @WiringTheBrain

      @WiringTheBrain @JayMan471 independent? entirely? doubt it.

      6:54 PM - 3 Jun 2014
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        1. JayMan‏ @JayMan471 3 Jun 2014
          Replying to @hbdchick

          @hbdchick @WiringTheBrain As you should. ;)

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