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    1. Nitetrain‏ @Nitetrain_1 Oct 23

      Nitetrain Retweeted DRUDGE REPORT

      .@hbdchick @PALE_Primate You can take people away from incestuous populations but you can't take incest away from incestuous people.https://twitter.com/DRUDGE_REPORT/status/1054808650542239744 …

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      DRUDGE REPORT @DRUDGE_REPORT
      Records Support Claims Rep. Married Her Brother... http://bit.ly/2PQEoVF 
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    2.  🎃 💀haunted chick 💀 🎃‏ @hbdchick Oct 23
      Replying to @Nitetrain_1 @PALE_Primate

      not all somali pops practice(d) cousin marriage (traditionally). northern somali groups avoided it, southerners preferred it. bucking the trend, it's the northern *pastoralists* who avoid cousin marriage, while the southern sedentary groups favor it.

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    3. Francisco C Ceballos‏ @Ceballos_Gene Oct 23
      Replying to @hbdchick @Nitetrain_1 @PALE_Primate

      Could you send us the reference for that differences between northen and southern Somalies? AGVP dataset shows that Somali presents systematic inbreeding.

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    4.  🎃 💀haunted chick 💀 🎃‏ @hbdchick Oct 24
      Replying to @Ceballos_Gene

      the anthropologist i.m. lewis is your man. he spent much of his lifetime studying the somali and other pops in the horn of africa. here from Blood and Bone: The Call of Kinship in Somali Society (https://books.google.com/books?id=9fAjtruUXjEC …):pic.twitter.com/Au6EA5iFws

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    5. Francisco C Ceballos‏ @Ceballos_Gene Oct 24
      Replying to @hbdchick

      Yeah... I'm familiar with all his work, also that book. However I'm not sure how accurate his conclusions are... specially after analysing ROH in the Horn of Africa. Thank you very much thought! I appreciate it!

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    6.  🎃 💀haunted chick 💀 🎃‏ @hbdchick Oct 24
      Replying to @Ceballos_Gene

      oh, right! did you (you guys) have samples from these northern groups he surveyed? he did mention somewhere (i think in Blood and Bones) how the practices could change, like during the wars of the '90s lotta these clans shifted to patrilineal cousin marriage...

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    7.  🎃 💀haunted chick 💀 🎃‏ @hbdchick Oct 24
      Replying to @hbdchick @Ceballos_Gene

      ...maybe the out-marriage practices he observed just happened to be favored in the time he happened to be there? a snapshot sort-of thing?

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    8. Francisco C Ceballos‏ @Ceballos_Gene Oct 24
      Replying to @hbdchick

      To tell you the truth I need to check again where the samples were collected. However ROH profiling analysis does not show that swift. Are northen somalies islamic?

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       🎃 💀haunted chick 💀 🎃‏ @hbdchick Oct 24
      Replying to @Ceballos_Gene

      yes, they are. which was one of lewis's points: he observed that there was a variety of marriage prerferences and practices between these islamic groups wrt to cousin marriage and concluded that islam was not the main factor pushing for endogamous practices in horn pops...

      6:45 AM - 24 Oct 2018
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        2.  🎃 💀haunted chick 💀 🎃‏ @hbdchick Oct 24
          Replying to @hbdchick @Ceballos_Gene

          ...but who knows how long they've been exogamous for? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ korotayev makes a similar argument, btw: that father's brother's daughter marriage in mena muslim societies is not really due to islam, but, rather, arabization.

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        3. Francisco C Ceballos‏ @Ceballos_Gene Oct 24
          Replying to @hbdchick

          This is indeed very interesting and way more juicy than said all islamic populations practice systematic inbreeding... We need more samples hahahaha. Saddly the AWI-Gen effort does not have many Somalies...

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        4.  🎃 💀haunted chick 💀 🎃‏ @hbdchick Oct 24
          Replying to @Ceballos_Gene

          yes! moar samples! moar genetic research magic! (^_^)

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        1. Francisco C Ceballos‏ @Ceballos_Gene Oct 24
          Replying to @hbdchick

          I see... however we found a clear difference between other Africa Horn pops like Amhara and Oromo. As you know these two are not as islamic as the Somali. Also islamic Nigerian populations present similar ROH profiling between them.

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