Hadi PartoviVerified account

Just pointing out data is important for accountability since you monosyllabically asserted it wasn’t.

Because the point I was making, that data is obfuscating that equity in CS depends on preparing kids of color and girls to overcome and change the realities of racism and sexism, was being obfuscated by....data. it's frustrating

I agree money should not drive curriculum decisions. But when you don’t believe in using data to make decisions or to measure impact, and you worry that data obfuscates reality, who is the arbiter of reality?

Ultimately either you believe in using data to make decisions and measure impact, or you don’t.

I'm not talking about decision making here. This is not that convo about curriculum. It's about how data on equity in CS does not reflect the reality and can easily manipulated to obfuscate the reality that sexism and racism need to be proactively addressed in all communities.

You stated earlier that you don’t believe in using data to make education decisions or to measure impact. If that’s your point of view I fundamentally disagree. I think individual stories can more easily be manipulated to obfuscate, hiding the stories of others.

I don't believe that data in education is accurate or precise. So no I don't believe we should make decisions or measure impact with it. It certainly can be part of a much larger, systemic analysis. #csforallnyc's upcoming #OpenData curriculum teaches students that.

I see. I agree data can be manipulated, and often is. @codeorg courses on data share this message too . But I disagree with the idea that data simply can’t be used to make decisions or measure impact. Even if we disagree, I’m glad we share the same goal.