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Founder #HourOfCode, CEO @Codeorg. Tech investor/advisor, Director at @Axon_us and @Convoyteam.

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    1. aankit‏ @aankit 23 Dec 2018
      Replying to @hadip @codeorg

      No

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    2. Sara Kazemi‏ @kazemicode 24 Dec 2018
      Replying to @aankit @hadip @codeorg

      You won’t get grants if you don’t have evidence that your initiative does what it purports (data). Grants enable entities like @codeorg to offer free curriculum and PD.

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    3. aankit‏ @aankit 24 Dec 2018
      Replying to @kazemicode @hadip @codeorg

      #csforallnyc has multiple grants. We don't pretend to use data to tell a complex story, instead we use it to paint a fuller picture. You may want to read Code's annual report... Tech companies not grants. Furthermore money should not drive our decision making

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    4. Sara Kazemi‏ @kazemicode 24 Dec 2018
      Replying to @aankit @hadip @codeorg

      Just pointing out data is important for accountability since you monosyllabically asserted it wasn’t.

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    5. aankit‏ @aankit 24 Dec 2018
      Replying to @kazemicode @hadip @codeorg

      Because the point I was making, that data is obfuscating that equity in CS depends on preparing kids of color and girls to overcome and change the realities of racism and sexism, was being obfuscated by....data. it's frustrating

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    6. Hadi Partovi‏Verified account @hadip 24 Dec 2018
      Replying to @aankit @kazemicode @codeorg

      I agree money should not drive curriculum decisions. But when you don’t believe in using data to make decisions or to measure impact, and you worry that data obfuscates reality, who is the arbiter of reality?

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    7. Hadi Partovi‏Verified account @hadip 24 Dec 2018
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      Ultimately either you believe in using data to make decisions and measure impact, or you don’t.

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    8. aankit‏ @aankit 24 Dec 2018
      Replying to @hadip @kazemicode @codeorg

      I'm not talking about decision making here. This is not that convo about curriculum. It's about how data on equity in CS does not reflect the reality and can easily manipulated to obfuscate the reality that sexism and racism need to be proactively addressed in all communities.

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    9. Hadi Partovi‏Verified account @hadip 24 Dec 2018
      Replying to @aankit @kazemicode @codeorg

      You stated earlier that you don’t believe in using data to make education decisions or to measure impact. If that’s your point of view I fundamentally disagree. I think individual stories can more easily be manipulated to obfuscate, hiding the stories of others.

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    10. Hadi Partovi‏Verified account @hadip 24 Dec 2018
      Replying to @hadip @aankit and

      For example, 3rd party research (caveat: awaiting peer review) shows @codeorg programs *cause* an estimated 7x increase in minorities taking and passing AP CS exams. There aren’t many causal statements one can make in CS Ed, but if this completes peer review, it will be one.

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      Hadi Partovi‏Verified account @hadip 24 Dec 2018
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      The study was based on data from thousands of students, each of whom has individual stories. When you don’t believe in using data to inform education decisions or measure impact, you risk ignoring some stories.

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        2. Sara Kazemi‏ @kazemicode 24 Dec 2018
          Replying to @hadip @aankit @codeorg

          This is a good conversation. Can you please share out the study if/when it clears peer review? Are you able to share who the third party researchers are?

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        3. Hadi Partovi‏Verified account @hadip 24 Dec 2018
          Replying to @kazemicode @aankit @codeorg

          We shared a link to it (transparently and without too much fanfare), but want to be clear it’s awaiting peer review. https://medium.com/@codeorg/research-shows-5x-computer-science-participation-at-schools-in-code-org-program-f99ca6ff3207 …

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        1. Hadi Partovi‏Verified account @hadip 24 Dec 2018
          Replying to @hadip @aankit and

          Meanwhile, data supports your assertion that Equity in CS is a long ways away, and data contradicts your suggestion that nothing has changed or is changing.

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        2. aankit‏ @aankit 24 Dec 2018
          Replying to @hadip @kazemicode @codeorg

          You also risk saying mission accomplished on a single data point. How can we reduce CS education to test scores? Yes it's a measure, I'm not denying that, but so much of what we do is based on building community, capacity, and agency that can't be measured so easily.

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        3. Hadi Partovi‏Verified account @hadip 24 Dec 2018
          Replying to @aankit @kazemicode @codeorg

          Agree data used incorrectly risks “mission accomplished.” That’s why when we shared our research we wrote “We’re a long way from balanced representation of young women and underrepresented minorities in computer science, and these results are incredibly promising.” Both are true.

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