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    1. gwern‏ @gwern 19 Nov 2018

      The GSS asks Americans a wide range of questions, everything from free speech opinions to # of sex partners. Results often surprising. But I wonder: what if you asked instead what they think is the most common answer? Which are, collectively, the 𝘮𝘰𝘴𝘵 surprising results?

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    2. gwern‏ @gwern 19 Nov 2018

      eg, AFAIK Americans overestimate how many LGBT/African-Americans are, and underestimate how common atheism is. So they'd badly misestimate how many would report those. But I bet there are far more surprising ones than those.

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    3. gwern‏ @gwern 19 Nov 2018

      (Should we call this "inverse Bayesian truth serum"?)

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    4. gwern‏ @gwern 19 Nov 2018

      Thought prompted by reading about musical anhedonia/colorblindness/aphantasia/anosmia/no-internal-monologues... At this point I expect people with no long-term memory: "What do you mean, you 'see' memories? Isn't 'remembering' when a voice describes it or tells you what to do?"

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      gwern‏ @gwern 19 Nov 2018

      One surreal example from https://www.reddit.com/r/self/comments/3yrw2i/i_never_thought_with_language_until_now_this_is/ … - do most kids... not think with language at all?pic.twitter.com/9MAWaPZABr

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        2. Gordon Mohr  👁 👁‏ @gojomo 19 Nov 2018
          Replying to @gwern

          I suspect lots of thought starts/happens without words, but as soon as we give the slightest consideration to communicating those thoughts, they get serialized/entangled with words - making it especially hard to discuss wordless thoughts

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        3. Gordon Mohr  👁 👁‏ @gojomo 19 Nov 2018
          Replying to @gojomo @gwern

          internal conscious/thinking/remembering experience varies a lot, as with aphantasia, & also this Quora Q I once answered where the asker (if you look at details in comment) had as premise that everyone only has audiovisual, not touch/taste/smell, memories!https://www.quora.com/How-come-our-brain-can-interpret-ideas-and-memories-as-audio-and-visual-but-not-as-odor-taste-or-touch …

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        1. Stefano Butera‏ @lud77 22 Nov 2018
          Replying to @gwern

          Narrating one's own thoughts is an active effort, and fitting thoughts to the proper words requires some knowledge of grammar and lexicon, so i would expect it to be a skill that improves over time

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        1. Jason‏ @peregrine 19 Nov 2018
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          Now I am trying to think of when I had my first “thought with language”. And how many people around me still don’t as adults?

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        1. Oleksij‏ @Oleksij69380522 19 Nov 2018
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          I distinctly remember thinking to myself, "I should think in words more!" at around age 11. Obviously I could do so before, but there was this stark contrast between how quiet my mind was versus how "loud" and busy it is now.

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