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Writer, independent researcher, Internet besserwisser. 𝘞𝘢𝘵𝘢𝘴𝘩𝘪 𝘬𝘪𝘯𝘪𝘯𝘢𝘳𝘪𝘮𝘢𝘴𝘶! Links: https://www.reddit.com/r/gwern/ 

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    1. gwern‏ @gwern 9 Nov 2018

      Disappointments: when 23, reading a paper, realizing: 'this is Peak Human'. I had grown up: now differences were quantitative, not qualitative. Never again would I see leaps like object permanence, counting, reading, the future, death, logic, sarcasm, programming, statistics...

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    2. gwern‏ @gwern 9 Nov 2018

      I didn't understand the paper, but I realized that I 𝘤𝘰𝘶𝘭𝘥 understand it - it was simply a matter of time & energy & prerequisites. It was not beyond me in a fundamental way. There were no more Piagetian levels. Isn't it sad, that it only takes 20 years or so, and that's it?

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    3. michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen 9 Nov 2018
      Replying to @gwern

      I've often had similar thoughts & a similar sense of disappointment. I wonder if they're right, though, or if I'm not perceiving important stages in people's aging.

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      gwern‏ @gwern 9 Nov 2018
      Replying to @michael_nielsen

      When you're a child, you can see older people accomplishing things you can't even understand how they are doing it. You can see the valuable results but the process is a total blackbox. I don't see anything similar when I look at older people now.

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        2. Matt Ranger‏ @vhranger 9 Nov 2018
          Replying to @gwern @michael_nielsen

          I think you need to look horizontally instead of vertically then. Look at new domains you know 0 things about that are deeply outside your area of knowledge. It's important to always be amazed!

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        3. gwern‏ @gwern 9 Nov 2018
          Replying to @vhranger @michael_nielsen

          Oh, I have no absence of things to be interested in. Everything has an interesting angle, whether it's catnip or Silicon Valley tech economics or racehorse breeding. What's disappointing is that they'll never be as transformative to me as something like game theory or evolution.

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        4. Richard Smith‏ @BeatPoet 9 Nov 2018
          Replying to @gwern @vhranger @michael_nielsen

          Have you taken acid yet??

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        5. gwern‏ @gwern 9 Nov 2018
          Replying to @BeatPoet @vhranger @michael_nielsen

          Yes.

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        2. michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen 9 Nov 2018
          Replying to @gwern

          Ah, that's an interesting difference. I do. And I know that as a child many of the most important processes were things I didn't even see at the time.

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        3. michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen 9 Nov 2018
          Replying to @michael_nielsen @gwern

          I guess I equivocate on this! I know people where I suspect what they're doing relies on really new levels I don't have (and may never have). But I'm not sure that's true, either!

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        1. Jackson Kernion‏ @JacksonKernion 9 Nov 2018
          Replying to @gwern @michael_nielsen

          I think I agree. But once you roughly understand how people do the things they do, what processes allow for them to achieve X, you can the turn to organizations/institutions. i.e. “How does the legal system work?” There’s infinite complexity there.

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        1. David Holz‏ @DavidSHolz 11 Nov 2018
          Replying to @gwern @michael_nielsen

          As you become more and more developed, you may need to look harder to find other highly developed people. If you're not looking harder (or better) over time it would naturally seem as if the diversity and wonder of the world naturally fades away as you age.

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        1. Lucio Martelli‏ @LucioMM1 9 Nov 2018
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          Maybe you should look at younger people to find it again

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