it's the truth Nathan! If isn't true, then our faith is useless - which is what "faith based" is all about. Fuzzy aspirations towards feelings. It matters not whether our grasp of the facts (what has happened) relies on faith - this is not what is at hand!
dude... that is what our senses do, insofar as they are functioning correctly. There is no actual intermediary layer (although we are able to impose one when things seem odd to us--) but we are limited to what our senses detect, obviously.
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There is no way to know that they do, is the point. I agree that they do because God is not a deceiver. How would I know that this is what they do sans this faith? Why can't I be a brain in a vat being lied to?
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This is pure Enlightenment f*ckery, my bro!
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Which is why I am not positing it. I am asking how someone who doesnt acknowledge the epistemological necessity of faith (i.e. not me who does) answers the question, and escapes the skeptical critique.
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they simply do what they always do, see it as a metaphysical claim which seems to them to not be "in" what the see, and reject it
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