anyway, don't we expect 23 year old women to be highly mature these days? Annoying to see men pile on with what's just intrasexual competition. Then again, men have been piling on wrt to the "face height frame" stuff, which is just as catty.
it's called "historical norm" - it's just instinctive. It cuts the other way as well.https://twitter.com/BigMeanInternet/status/1044212290105561088 …
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as a counterpoint, I've noticed the guys I know who married an older woman (whether her age or younger) didn't have kids. In this case I mean they married a woman in her mid-late 30's regardless of their age. I'm sure that's a major factor in attitudes.
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