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    John Gruber Verified account ‏@gruber Sep 18

    Is Night Shift really deserving of this much real estate in Control Center? Don’t people who use it set it to auto?pic.twitter.com/7qxUaw483O

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      1. Bryan William Jones ‏@BWJones Sep 18

        @gruber I’m more irritated that Apple ripped off @herf than their mis-use of screen real estate.

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      3. John Gruber ‏@gruber Sep 18

        @BWJones @herf Pfff. What would you have them do?

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      5. Bryan William Jones ‏@BWJones Sep 18

        @gruber @herf Pfff nothing. Apple's implementation does effectively nothing as the defaults are ineffective. Results = neuromarketing spin.

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      7. Michael B. Johnson ‏@drwave Sep 18

        @BWJones @gruber @herf So it’s either nonsense, or it’s not. Is the issue they implemented a bad idea, or implemented it badly?

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      9. John Gruber ‏@gruber Sep 18

        @drwave @BWJones @herf What he said. IMO it’s nonsense, but I know some people simply prefer it, claiming no sleep benefits.

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      1. Tom Conrad ‏@tconrad Sep 18

        @gruber heaven forbid there be a way to get to "settings" app

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      2. Dan Frommer ‏@fromedome Sep 18

        @tconrad @gruber Also much harder to change brightness now. Most attempts just move that pane. (And don't get me started on pause button.)

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      1. Eli Schiff ‏@eli_schiff Sep 18

        @gruber Entire control center is a mess. Left right swipe conflicts with sliders.

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      2. Mike Rundle ‏@flyosity Sep 18

        @eli_schiff @gruber Yeah. I've had the whole thing move on me at least 10 times as I've been trying to adjust brightness.

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      1. Bill Barnes ‏@billba Sep 19 Northeast Bellevue, Bellevue

        @gruber a theory: it’s a (comparatively) new feature, so they’re giving it the spotlight.

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      2. John Gruber ‏@gruber Sep 19

        @billba Makes as much sense as anything. But seems like a bad precedent.

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      1. Kirk McElhearn ‏@mcelhearn Sep 18

        @gruber Here it is on my iPad mini; it needs room to be able to show the end time. I don't use auto.pic.twitter.com/8KthNZ8cET

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      3. Scott Lougheed ‏@ScottIsLoud Sep 18

        @mcelhearn @gruber surely could span two lines at half the width?

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      4. Kirk McElhearn ‏@mcelhearn Sep 19

        @ScottIsLoud @gruber Maybe in English, but you need to think of potential localization problems if you do that.

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      5. Scott Lougheed ‏@ScottIsLoud Sep 19

        @mcelhearn @gruber good point but why provide that detail at all? DND doesn’t. Or why not hide it behind 3D Touch like everything else?

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      7. Kirk McElhearn ‏@mcelhearn Sep 19

        @ScottIsLoud @gruber And only a few devices have 3D touch.

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      8. Scott Lougheed ‏@ScottIsLoud Sep 19

        @mcelhearn @gruber sure but that hasn’t stopped them from hiding a slew of control panel and other features behind it. (E.g. Flashlight)

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      9. Kirk McElhearn ‏@mcelhearn Sep 19

        @ScottIsLoud The flashlight isn't hidden on my iPhone SE.

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      11. Scott Lougheed ‏@ScottIsLoud Sep 19

        @mcelhearn basically anything in this article is hidden unless you have 3D Touch.Why not do the same w/ night shift?http://iphone.appleinsider.com/articles/16/06/17/inside-ios-10-3d-touch-enhances-apples-quick-control-center-shortcuts-on-iphone-6s-6s-plus …

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