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    1. John Gruber ‏@gruber Jun 1

      Blizzard gets a hard-coded exemption to the iOS and MacOS sandboxes? Yikes:https://storify.com/gruber/blizzard-exemption-to-ios-and-macos-sandbox …

      0 replies 257 retweets 207 likes
    2. John Gruber ‏@gruber Jun 1

      Update on the Blizzard/sandbox thing, from a birdie familiar with the matter: Blizzard’s updater had a crasher. Apple created workaround.

      0 replies 37 retweets 42 likes
    3. John Gruber ‏@gruber Jun 1

      Practically speaking, all sandboxing rules still apply to Blizzard apps; workaround doesn’t allow operations that other apps can’t do too.

      0 replies 18 retweets 19 likes
    4. John Gruber ‏@gruber Jun 1

      And Blizzard has fixed their updater, so the workaround shouldn’t be needed in next update.

      0 replies 12 retweets 15 likes
      John Gruber Verified account ‏@gruber Jun 1

      My takeaway is that Apple will go to extraordinary lengths to avoid crashers in super-popular apps, even when it’s entirely the app’s fault.

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        1. Will Strafach ‏@chronic Jun 1

          @gruber might be interesting if the birdies can shed light on the criteria for the apps they can't break.

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        3. John Gruber ‏@gruber Jun 1

          @chronic My guess is there are no criteria — it’s a “We know them when we see them” thing: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_know_it_when_I_see_it …

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        1. Sebastiaan de With 🇯🇵 ‏@sdw Jun 1

          @gruber this is pretty common in gaming, FWIW: graphics drivers are basically a huge string of hacks to prevent AAA games from crashing.

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        3. Mo McRoberts ‏@nevali Jun 1 Paisley, Scotland

          @sdw @gruber and Windows, for that matter. see Raymond Chen’s blog for tales of appcompat hacks of yore. price of popularity.

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        1. Sebastiaan de With 🇯🇵 ‏@sdw Jun 1

          @gruber … so a little patch from Apple here isn’t that far out of the ordinary.

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        2. Will Strafach ‏@chronic Jun 1

          @sdw @gruber afaik it's happened before and will continue to with regards to code, but not sure about specific team IDs like this.

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      1. Will Strafach ‏@chronic Jun 1

        @gruber well based on code in iOS and OS X, Apple dedinitely has apps they are not allowed to break with an iOS update.

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      2. Mark Villacampa ‏@MarkVillacampa Jun 1

        @gruber osx is full of special handlings for Adobe apps too

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        1. Benedict Evans ‏@BenedictEvans Jun 1

          @gruber similar with Microsoft.

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      3. Crooked James ‏@jmichaethompson Jun 1

        @gruber Microsoft did the same with Windows. It makes sense

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        1. Serge Engine ‏@ser9e Jun 1 Outremont, Montréal

          @gruber @drbarnard and yet Blizzard refuses to make Overwatch for Mac

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      4. John Reese  🎮 ‏@nuclear_eclipse Jun 1

        @gruber Microsoft always did that, but then they never removed the workarounds because then new things depended on all the old workarounds

        0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
      5. Rich ‏@VF0g Jun 2

        @gruber Microsoft, at least historically, did the same thing http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/APIWar.html …pic.twitter.com/0KXxFAVZxk

        0 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      6. Jeff Hatz ‏@Jeff_Hatz Jun 1

        @gruber On apps that sizzle (hijack) methods but ends up causing crashes, Apple’s hard-coded those apps to unswizzle the methods to fix it

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      7. Jeff Cuscutis ‏@cuscutis Jun 1

        @gruber Microsoft does the same thing.

        0 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      8. Andrew Brown ‏@roughlyandrew Jun 1 Lake Butler, FL

        @gruber at MSFT in 90s, realloc() updated for perf. AOL relied on old/undefined behavior, began crashing. We patched system CRT to prevent.

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