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    1. Rafael ‏@MyDarkroom Apr 25

      $4,000 PC Destroys $4,000 iMac in Lightroom Performance Test @gruber @iMore @jdalrymple @reneritchie @marcoarmenthttp://petapixel.com/2016/04/25/4k-pc-trounces-4k-imac-photography-speed-test/ …

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    2. Marco Arment ‏@marcoarment Apr 25

      @MyDarkroom @gruber @iMore @jdalrymple @reneritchie There’s a lot of bullshitting in the parts choices, but the conclusion stands.

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    3. Jim Dalrymple ‏@jdalrymple Apr 25

      @marcoarment @mydarkroom @gruber @imore @reneritchie How do you mean?

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    4. Mike Wuerthele ‏@Mike_Wuerthele Apr 25

      @jdalrymple @marcoarment @MyDarkroom @gruber @iMore @reneritchie Well, they overclocked the PC's (unlocked) processor to 4.5GHz for one.

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    5. Marco Arment ‏@marcoarment Apr 25

      @MacNN_Mike @jdalrymple @MyDarkroom @gruber @iMore @reneritchie And watercooling? Yikes.

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      John Gruber Verified account ‏@gruber Apr 25

      @marcoarment @jdalrymple @MyDarkroom @iMore @reneritchie To me it just shows how many hoops you have to jump through to make iMac look bad.

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        1. Jason Snell ‏@jsnell Apr 25

          @gruber @marcoarment @jdalrymple @MyDarkroom @iMore @reneritchie I gotta give their IT guy credit--he's got a classic 1998 attitude

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        3. Cabel Sasser ‏@cabel Apr 25

          @jsnell @gruber @marcoarment @jdalrymple I actually agree with the overall point, but the second they wrote "(Apple Tax required)" they lost

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        5. Jason Snell ‏@jsnell Apr 25

          @cabel @gruber @marcoarment @jdalrymple what's the overall point? That a homebuilt water cooled PC w/o retina runs Lightroom faster?

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        6. Cabel Sasser ‏@cabel Apr 25

          @jsnell @gruber @marcoarment @jdalrymple To me it's a broader "Mac performance has lagged behind PC performance more than I can remember"

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        8. Jason Snell ‏@jsnell Apr 25

          @cabel @gruber @marcoarment @jdalrymple for custom built yes, from regular vendors the perf has generally been identical at identical prices

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        10. Olivier Roux ‏@otolithe Apr 25 Mirabeau, France

          @jsnell @cabel @gruber @marcoarment @jdalrymple Also, Adobe software has always been slower on Mac, whatever the hardware…

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        11. John Gruber ‏@gruber Apr 26

          @otolithe @jsnell @cabel @marcoarment @jdalrymple Lightroom was Mac-first, though, if I recall correctly.

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        12. Olivier Roux ‏@otolithe Apr 26 Mirabeau, France

          @gruber @jsnell @cabel @marcoarment @jdalrymple doesn’t mean it would have better performance… Photoshop too was Mac first.

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        1. SJ ‏@sjaay Apr 25

          @gruber @marcoarment that imac should cost $2500-3000 instead. Too overpriced

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        3. John Gruber ‏@gruber Apr 25

          @sjaay @marcoarment “Should” based on demand (what people are willing to pay), or based on commodity PC component pricing?

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        4. SJ ‏@sjaay Apr 25

          @gruber @marcoarment based on what a similar pc would cost

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        5. John Gruber ‏@gruber Apr 25

          @sjaay @marcoarment That’s not how pricing actually works.

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        6. SJ ‏@sjaay Apr 25

          @gruber @marcoarment Yeah I know, R&D costs, etc etc. But creating a similar pc is a good comparison

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        1. Rafael ‏@MyDarkroom Apr 25

          @gruber true. But keep the link just in case next time Lightroom freezes on you! :)

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        3. Ken McAllister ‏@kenmcall Apr 25

          @MyDarkroom @gruber Does it freeze on you a lot? I run Lightroom on a 2013 rMbp and it never freezes. RAW files, large library, etc.

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        4. Rafael ‏@MyDarkroom Apr 25

          @kenmcall @gruber Feels so slow, specially when comparing to Aperture or the featureless Photos.

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        1. Abominable Anemone ‏@AbomAnemone Apr 25

          @gruber @marcoarment @jdalrymple @MyDarkroom @iMore @reneritchie iMac is a bad place to target if you want to make Apple look bad right now.

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        2. Rafael ‏@MyDarkroom Apr 25

          @AbomAnemone I really dont want to make Apple look bad. They are. I love my iMac but starting to realize where Apple is taking desktops to.

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        3. Abominable Anemone ‏@AbomAnemone Apr 25

          @MyDarkroom I think we could have a long, interesting discussion about this. The iMac still has a trump card. That truly excellent display.

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        4. Rafael ‏@MyDarkroom Apr 25

          @AbomAnemone Indeed! Love that display! No doubt the selling point! Interesting Apple hasn’t updated the Apple Display, eh?

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        6. Abominable Anemone ‏@AbomAnemone Apr 25

          @MyDarkroom The reason it works in the iMac is because it’s integrated. Apple external displays never have enough interfaces, and glossy.

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