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@gruber Weren’t “Most Users” happy with IE back in the heyday of it’s dominance?

@gruber It sounds like many want a highly portable, if inevitably mediocre, platform over a polished if native one.

@reneritchie wait, so what exactly are you saying is inevitably mediocre? asking for browser improvements is asking for a better web @gruber

@spencenow @gruber But does everything need to be on the web, or would some things be better native?

@reneritchie no doubt native UX wins on mobile, all things being equal. that said Safari will be "inevitably mediocre" if neglected @gruber

@spencenow @reneritchie After the Safari and web dev sessions from WWDC last month, hard for me to take seriously “neglected” as adjective.

@gruber thats some grade-A confirmation bias and chest thumping

@goodwillbits Explain to me how I’m wrong.

@gruber if Apple adopted a neutral position and implemented all the standards the iOS choice wouldn’t be much of a problem

@mburgosh That’s not “neutral”.

@gruber Have users experienced an iOS that Apple doesn’t control? If they haven’t how do you know which they prefer?

@joranelias That’s not what I said.

@gruber Huh. Maybe I need more than 140 chars to understand what you meant then, cause I’m not seeing what you mean.

@joranelias @gruber You replaced 'happy w/' with 'prefer', which is not what he said.

@brentous I see, so they are happy but they might not actually prefer it. Got it.

@joranelias Why are you building a new narrative instead of addressing the points @gruber actually made?