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    Darren Mar-Elia‏ @grouppolicyguy 20 Dec 2020

    Microsoft finally kills the Red Forest-which will be welcome news to anyone that implemented it :-). Proving once again that making security hard isn't a great recipe for success: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/security/compass/esae-retirement …. What's the answer now? Why the cloud, of course! #infosec #activedirectory

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      2. Frederik Leed‏ @FrederikLeed 20 Dec 2020
        Replying to @grouppolicyguy

        Hmmmm... nott sure how to feel about it. We still do separate administration(and deployment env) of PAWs right? Then what about when you manage PAWs with Intune? Not a separate tenant? Then this makes Intune Adminstrators(and many more) T0.

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      3. Darren Mar-Elia‏ @grouppolicyguy 20 Dec 2020
        Replying to @FrederikLeed

        Yes, I think many of the same problems exist--just moved elsewhere. There are some additional follow up articles here: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/security/compass/privileged-access-strategy … and https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/security/compass/security-rapid-modernization-plan … but this is not solved with software alone.

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      2. joe‏ @joewaredotnet 20 Dec 2020
        Replying to @grouppolicyguy

        Hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate the Red Forest Model. Always have. Being a difficult pain in the ass != Security. If you can't properly secure one forest, what makes you think you can secure two?

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      3. Darren Mar-Elia‏ @grouppolicyguy 20 Dec 2020
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      2. pronounced A-A-Ron‏ @aaronguilmette 20 Dec 2020
        Replying to @grouppolicyguy

        I’m so glad to see it go. It only ever resulted in admins making hidden shortcuts to access or administer things, the equivalent to just a knight wearing armor only on the front.

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      3. Darren Mar-Elia‏ @grouppolicyguy 20 Dec 2020
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        I love that visual!

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      2. NinjaStyle‏ @NinjaStyle82 20 Dec 2020
        Replying to @grouppolicyguy @PyroTek3

        I don't love how they are killing the tiers if favor of a way more complex zero trust thing that almost no one will use, just like red forest.

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      3. Darren Mar-Elia‏ @grouppolicyguy 20 Dec 2020
        Replying to @NinjaStyle82 @PyroTek3

        Tiering works. I would frankly ignore that advice. You're right about Zero Trust. If many shops can't figure out how to do tiering, how do they expect the complexities of Zero Trust to be managed?

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      1. Brian in Pittsburgh‏ @arekfurt 20 Dec 2020
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        Ugh. A thousand times ugh.

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      1. Michael Liben‏ @MLiben 20 Dec 2020
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        The dogma surrounding ESAE was too much to stomach.

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