the original question was do doctors use this phrase- yes, and frequently. And no harm is done. The reality is during rapid handoffs and note writing a variety of suboptimal terms are used without intent to offend. We’re clinicians not scribes.
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Replying to @grepmeded @mancunianmedic and
I would also argue “hypoactive delirium” is much more likely to confuse a junior nursing student or medical student whereas “pleasantly confused” with some choice additional verbiage a monkey can understand.
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Replying to @sarah_janemad @mancunianmedic and
this would be a terrific poll.
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i may be wrong but I suspect students would prefer the correct clinical terminology because of the impact language has of how they will be previved and judged in their roles
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Replying to @sarah_janemad @Nurse_Lecturer and
You’re probably not wrong but my premise was 1) during a busy shift what might be more likely to confuse a junior trainee and 2) when you have 20 notes to write and you’re late again what verbiage no one reads will likely come to your fingers. this is charting not a conference
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Replying to @grepmeded @sarah_janemad and
“pleasantly confused” far outnumbers “hypoactive delirium” where I practice. These aren’t bad nurses and doctors were just trying to bang out stupid notes for the bean counters and lawyers.
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With respect I’m not ciritising I havent said anyone is bad - I thought we were discussing ? I think its sensible to examine language we use as it does have an impact of
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Replying to @sarah_janemad @grepmeded
However some key Lead nurse figures would argue that by not using the correct terminology, learners, trainees & st nurses leave themselves open to not being viewed as credible. I was picking up on your point particularly on student nurses hence tagging is the key group.
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Replying to @sarah_janemad @grepmeded
I’ll bow our now and I’m tired - no offence was meant - kr
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no offense taken or meant from me either. I got into this discussion because people seemed to choose to be offended by benign suboptimal but extremely common terminology
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Replying to @grepmeded
Taking offence doesn’t help, need to discuss. I can see both arguments & it most prob links to experience of person & accepeted norms as you said but also environment / culture / role models. it would be worth you looking up
@DrRobgalloway ‘s talk on you tube
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