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Teacher. PhD Candidate. Blogger. Teachers: Let’s take back our profession. Views own.

Ballarat, Victoria
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    Greg Ashman‏ @greg_ashman Feb 4

    The study showing handwritten notes are superior to typed notes fails to replicatehttps://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2Fs10648-019-09468-2 …

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      2. Casper Hulshof‏ @CasperHuls Feb 4
        Replying to @greg_ashman

        My colleague Renee, together with @lakens wrote an interesting review of this effect, and actually use a cognitive load model to explain contradictory effects.https://psyarxiv.com/ty4nq/ 

        6 replies 15 retweets 67 likes
      3. Greg Ashman‏ @greg_ashman Feb 4
        Replying to @CasperHuls @lakens

        Thanks - I hadn't seen that

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      2. Lars Arvestad‏ @arvestad Feb 5
        Replying to @greg_ashman

        I like the brief comment in the abstract that "Group differences were further decreased after students studied their notes"

        2 replies 6 retweets 102 likes
      3. ༼ 💢´༎ຶ ۝ ༎ຶ༽  🔇‏ @clystar_fruit Feb 7
        Replying to @arvestad @greg_ashman

        yeah, that seems to be the most important part; having something legible that you can actually go back to and study.

        1 reply 0 retweets 15 likes
      4. Veronika H. Drageid‏ @VHD_Feminist Feb 7
        Replying to @clystar_fruit @arvestad @greg_ashman

        But if they never do anyway, then handwriting is the better choice.

        1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
      5. ༼ 💢´༎ຶ ۝ ༎ຶ༽  🔇‏ @clystar_fruit Feb 7
        Replying to @VHD_Feminist @arvestad @greg_ashman

        Idk, if you plan on never looking at the notes again then don't bother. At that point, you might as well close the notebook and focus your energy on paying attention to and memorizing the lecture.

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      6. Veronika H. Drageid‏ @VHD_Feminist Feb 9
        Replying to @clystar_fruit @arvestad @greg_ashman

        Wrong. Writing it is a powerful way of helping the brain remember, as it forces us to pay attention. Ofc it's better to look at the notes afterwards, but sometimes life happens.

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      7. Lars Arvestad‏ @arvestad Feb 9
        Replying to @VHD_Feminist @clystar_fruit @greg_ashman

        The whole point of the paper is that there is no statistically significant difference between note taking by hand, on computer, or not at all.

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      1. Andrew Watson‏ @AndrewWatsonTTB Feb 5
        Replying to @greg_ashman

        In fact, the initial study's methodology assumes that note-taking is a skill that can't be taught or learned. If you assume it CAN be taught/learned, then its findings suggest that typewritten notes will be better. https://www.learningandthebrain.com/blog/now-even-the-new-york-times-has-it-wrong/ …

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      1. Dr James Shea‏ @englishspecial Feb 5
        Replying to @greg_ashman

        Raises the issue of the deaf. We can either hear (watch the speaker) or write, we can’t do both. Having a note taker doesn’t help as much as people think either.

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      2. David R. Feinberg, PhD‏ @davidrfeinberg Feb 4
        Replying to @greg_ashman @lakens

        Old professors everywhere groan.

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      3. Eric Chant (they/them)‏ @bhendykat Feb 7
        Replying to @davidrfeinberg @lakens

        Good

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      2. Donald Clark‏ @DonaldClark Feb 5
        Replying to @greg_ashman

        Note taking in any form is inferior to retrieval, which is shown to have significant effects on retention and recall. Is this whole note taking/reading thing (much beloved of Uni study guides) a red herring? Go for free text input and AI to interpret https://bit.ly/2GmdL92 

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      3. Casper Hulshof‏ @CasperHuls Feb 5
        Replying to @DonaldClark @greg_ashman

        I’ll make a note of that.

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      1. Amanda Dewinter‏ @amandadewinter Feb 4
        Replying to @greg_ashman

        Thank you for sharing, this is useful and important for students to know. Whichever one is the most automatic is likely to be the one that "sticks" less. "Using" notes after making them is what will make it "stick".

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      2. Dr Robert O'Toole NTF‏ @robertotoole Feb 7
        Replying to @greg_ashman

        There'e just one thing I can say about this...pic.twitter.com/9PfN0PmCF8

        1 reply 0 retweets 11 likes
      3. Dr Robert O'Toole NTF‏ @robertotoole Feb 7
        Replying to @robertotoole @greg_ashman

        Or using a more efficient medium than handwriting: I can barely read my own writing.

        3 replies 0 retweets 4 likes
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