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Mathematics Sorceror (sensory alchemist) at the Arctangent Transpetroglyphics Algra Laboratory (ATAL), I transmute mathematics into living rainbows.

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    1. luquipuqui‏ @luqui Feb 12
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      I know people who see things in a lot of visual detail, with objects having colors and positions. Yet there are others (like me) where it's more symbolic and abstract. So maybe you don't get corrected, and we end up using the same word for different things.

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    2. D ␣ a ␣ n ␣ P ␣ i ␣ p ␣ o ␣ n ␣ i‏ @sigfpe Feb 12
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      Exactly. But this makes me somewhat skeptical of all claims about level of ability to visualize because there is no interpersonal calibration of the word and the language around it.

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    3. John Carlos Baez‏ @johncarlosbaez Feb 12
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      The people who claim they can visualize well sometimes claim they *need* to visualize things to understand them. I used to be like that.

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    4. Babak Farhang‏ @farkf Feb 13
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      I'm still like that. I can follow a train of logical arguments, but I only feel I understand if I've taken the time to construct a stand-in visualization of them (even if they be poor visual analogies). Did you lose this "need" deliberately (and did you replace it w something)?

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    5. John Carlos Baez‏ @johncarlosbaez Feb 13
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      Replying to @farkf @sigfpe @luqui

      Yes, I lost this need deliberately, because a friend convinced me that it's limiting: there are kinds of imagination and reasoning that don't fit well into images. I improved my powers of verbal reasoning and analogy. I still visualize when it helps to do so.

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    6. summerstay‏ @summerstay1 Feb 14
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      Replying to @johncarlosbaez @farkf and

      Interesting. I always felt frustrated when college math teachers didn't seem to realize that a visualization was necessary for me to understand (for example, proof-heavy courses). I would like to take a course on how to understand without visualizing.

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    7. John Carlos Baez‏ @johncarlosbaez Feb 14
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      I disliked my abstract algebra course as an undergrad because I couldn't attach a mental image to a normal subgroup, an ideal in a ring, etc. I loved analysis and topology because I could visualize spaces and functions. Later I learned to visualize algebra and loved it.

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    8. John Carlos Baez‏ @johncarlosbaez Feb 14
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      Much later, when I got seriously into category theory, I outgrew my need to visualize everything. This came from many years of conversations with James Dolan, who argued me out of it and gave me many new tools for thinking verbally - like category theory.

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    9. Weston Beecroft‏ @Westoncb Feb 14
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      It seems like there is a unique satisfaction that comes with visual understanding—maybe a more immediate sense of parts being integrated. But I suppose that feeling may just be a kind of comfort/security, and not the be-all end-all.

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    10. John Carlos Baez‏ @johncarlosbaez Feb 14
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      The visual cortex has a lot of processing power and special ways of processing data - it's good to take advantage of it. But the human specialty is language, and we should develop that to its full extent too. We can use both - relying too heavily on either one is a weakness.

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      Owen Maresh‏ @graveolens Feb 14
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      [aside]: for strange reasons, I'm trying to learn the vocabularies of geomorphology, vasculatury, some anatomy, lightning terminology, and botanical terms before striking out in some complex dynamics directions because those terminologies occasionally have words like `anastomose`

      9:06 PM - 14 Feb 2020
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