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Surgeon/scientist promoting science in medicine and exposing quackery. Editor of Science-Based Medicine. My opinions do NOT represent those of my employers.

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    1. Alan Levinovitz‏Verified account @AlanLevinovitz 16 May 2018
      Replying to @AlanLevinovitz @gorskon and

      I also believe--and in this perhaps I'm somewhat unusual--that there's room for a variety of ways of "branding" lifestyle interventions. Some people prefer camping, others prefer yoga--these are aesthetic-spiritual choices that I'm happy to respect. 2/

      1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
    2. Alan Levinovitz‏Verified account @AlanLevinovitz 16 May 2018
      Replying to @AlanLevinovitz @gorskon and

      However, I don't think it's fair to conflate those lifestyle interventions with acupuncture for IVF, which really *is* part of a larger panacea-style claim about how fixing qi can help a variety of conditions. Likewise for homeopathy, etc. 3/

      3 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
    3. Umbereen S. Nehal, MD, MPH‏ @usnehal 17 May 2018
      Replying to @AlanLevinovitz @gorskon and

      CAM includes aspects of diet. Diet can include paying attention to sugar. No one quite understands how the relationship between sugar and cancer works: https://www.sciencealert.com/a-nine-year-study-has-just-shown-how-sugar-exacerbates-cancer … What is CAM and what is “real” medicine is not distinct.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    4. Umbereen S. Nehal, MD, MPH‏ @usnehal 17 May 2018
      Replying to @usnehal @AlanLevinovitz and

      That is not to say that a special diet helps after cancer happens. This gets into that:https://www.mskcc.org/blog/no-sugar-no-cancer-look-evidence …

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    5. Umbereen S. Nehal, MD, MPH‏ @usnehal 17 May 2018
      Replying to @usnehal @AlanLevinovitz and

      It is modern diets and lifestyles that are killing us. We needed research to tell us that the “a Mediterranean diet”, a traditional diet, is “medically approved” for health. https://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/nutrition-and-healthy-eating/in-depth/mediterranean-diet/art-20047801 …

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    6. Umbereen S. Nehal, MD, MPH‏ @usnehal 17 May 2018
      Replying to @usnehal @AlanLevinovitz and

      Sounds like some “quack” touting a panacea. “The Mediterranean diet is also associated with a reduced incidence of cancer, and Parkinson's and Alzheimer's diseases. Women who eat a Mediterranean diet..may have a reduced risk of breast cancer.” Oops. I mean Mayo, not a quack.

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    7. Umbereen S. Nehal, MD, MPH‏ @usnehal 17 May 2018
      Replying to @usnehal @AlanLevinovitz and

      Phew, now can have olive oil without being excommunicated from science: “In fact, a meta-analysis of more than 1.5 million healthy adults demonstrated that following a Mediterranean diet was associated with a reduced risk of cardiovascular mortality as well as overall mortality”

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    8. Alan Levinovitz‏Verified account @AlanLevinovitz 17 May 2018
      Replying to @usnehal @gorskon and

      This conversation is lurching from one kind of claim to another. I'm sympathetic to people who want to relax the stranglehold scientific epistemology has on dietary choices. But talking about this and COIs and IVF as CAM conflates and oversimplifies many, many different ideas. 1/

      2 replies 0 retweets 4 likes
    9. Alan Levinovitz‏Verified account @AlanLevinovitz 17 May 2018
      Replying to @AlanLevinovitz @usnehal and

      Like the idea of "natural" with which it often appears, CAM is a single term that stands in for distinct goals & beliefs: 1. Patient empowerment 2. Attention to lifestyle 3. The idea we are "inherently" healthy 4. Respect for indigenous cultures 5. Belief in an Edenic past 2/

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    10. Edzard Ernst‏ @EdzardErnst 17 May 2018
      Replying to @AlanLevinovitz @usnehal and

      CAM is a single term that stands in for distinct goals & beliefs: 1. Patient empowerment 2. Attention to lifestyle 3. The idea we are "inherently" healthy 4. Respect for indigenous cultures 5. Belief in an Edenic past WITH RESPECT, THIS IS BS!

      6 replies 0 retweets 1 like
      David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon 17 May 2018
      Replying to @EdzardErnst @AlanLevinovitz and

      Yep. CAM and integrative medicines are labels designed to facilitate the integration of pseudoscience and quackery into medicine, using #1-5 as camouflage.

      10:27 AM - 17 May 2018
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