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Surgeon/scientist promoting science in medicine and exposing quackery. Editor of Science-Based Medicine. My opinions do NOT represent those of my employers.

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    David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon 8 May 2018

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    Correct. The vast majority of physicians are not scientists. They just aren't. I've said this time and time again. You don't have to have a PhD in a science to be a scientist, and I've known MDs who were excellent scientists, but most doctors are not scientists. https://twitter.com/skepticpedi/status/993824286782771200 …

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    • Ben 🍺the Wheat Raiser's🍞 Edge RegulatoryDad🇨🇦 blah Scott Myers Ada McVean 🌈 perpetually anxious Amanda Montalbano 𝖉𝖊𝖈𝖔𝖗𝖆𝖙𝖊𝖉 𝖈𝖔𝖒𝖒𝖆𝖓𝖉𝖔 𝖈𝖔𝖑𝖔𝖓 Darwin Hannon #SHALIEVE slightly irritable scientist🔬☣☢
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      1. Sean P Nickerson‏ @SeanPNickerson 8 May 2018
        Replying to @gorskon @iAmTheWarax

        I've worked at medical schools (veterinarian & human) for years and found that although they all receive extensive scientific training, most don't come out behaving as scientist.

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      2. Amy‏ @amybutmoreso 8 May 2018
        Replying to @gorskon @iAmTheWarax

        The whole *mindset* is completely different. I think the best way to sum it up is that doctors have to believe they are right, and scientists constantly strive to prove themselves wrong.

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      3. Amy‏ @amybutmoreso 8 May 2018
        Replying to @amybutmoreso @gorskon @iAmTheWarax

        That's not a bad thing. A doctor could not treat a patient without that certainty. Constant uncertainty is paralyzing in medicine.

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      1. David Thompson‏ @_mightytweets 8 May 2018
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        A crucial part of scientific investigation is exposing your ideas to the scrutiny of your peers. If that’s not happening, it ain’t science.

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      2. John Mashey‏ @JohnMashey 8 May 2018
        Replying to @gorskon

        1/ Scientists sometimes do engineering & engineers sometimes do science. I’d say work most physicians do is more like engineering, as should

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      3. John Mashey‏ @JohnMashey 8 May 2018
        Replying to @JohnMashey @gorskon

        2/ I know physicians, some publish research, most okeep up in latest science & see medical science researchers often at UCSF & Stanford.

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      2. Sartorius Medicus‏ @SartoriusMD 8 May 2018
        Replying to @gorskon

        This is especially true in the US where there’s a clear difference between clinical and research tracks (Americans are very bad at striking happy balances, be it in beer, medicine, society ;)). MDs in purely clinical tracks are as far from being scientists as possible.

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      3. Dino William Ramzi‏ @dwramzimdmph 9 May 2018
        Replying to @SartoriusMD @gorskon

        Sadly, this is an indictment of educational systems.

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      2. BadlyShavedMonkey‏ @StumpedMonkey 8 May 2018
        Replying to @gorskon

        1/2 My veterinary training was very heavily authority/expert/experience-based. That was 30 years ago. Things have improved in education but I still find new graduates struggle with genuine scepticism and their default setting is trust in authority.

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      3. BadlyShavedMonkey‏ @StumpedMonkey 8 May 2018
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        2/2 Trust authority is ‘dyed in the wool’ from early on. The scientific method is taught at school and university but risks being adopted as a mere set of tools to get results rather than the basis of a sceptical worldview. I didn’t ‘get it’ properly until PhD and after.

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