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Surgeon/scientist promoting science in medicine and exposing quackery. Editor of Science-Based Medicine. My opinions do NOT represent those of my employers.

Michigan, USA
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    1. VOTE #DALEK2024 BECAUSE HOW COULD IT BE WORSE‏ @RepublicanDalek 26 Apr 2018
      Replying to @gorskon @doritmi @BarristerSecret

      BEST INTEREST OF THE CHILD IS STILL THE STANDARD ON PAPER, BUT SINCE TROXEL, THAT HAS BECOME SOMETHING OF A FICTION, AS ANY SIGNIFICANT DECISION THAT WOULD OVERRIDE PARENTAL DECISIONMAKING BECOMES HIGH CONSTITUTIONAL THEATRE.

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    2. VOTE #DALEK2024 BECAUSE HOW COULD IT BE WORSE‏ @RepublicanDalek 26 Apr 2018
      Replying to @RepublicanDalek @gorskon and

      AS YOU AND THE OTHER HUMAN POINT OUT, COURTS (RARELY) OVERRIDE AND ORDER MEDICAL TREATMENT. THAT IS ESSENTIALLY A JUDGMENT THAT DENYING CARE AMOUNTS TO CHILD ABUSE, WHICH (ONLY PARTIALLY) CONFLICTS WITH PARENTAL CON RIGHTS. BUT ORDERING *NON-TREATMENT*?

      3 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    3. (((Dorit Reiss)))‏Verified account @doritmi 26 Apr 2018
      Replying to @RepublicanDalek @gorskon @BarristerSecret

      There is no legal barrier. It would run against cultural and political barriers.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    4. David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon 26 Apr 2018
      Replying to @doritmi @RepublicanDalek @BarristerSecret

      That was my thought. After all, Rand Paul himself said in the context of vaccine mandates, "The state doesn’t own the children. Parents own the children, and it is an issue of freedom." Yes, he really said that.https://respectfulinsolence.com/2015/02/03/is-republican-party-becoming-antivaccine-party/ …

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    5. VOTE #DALEK2024 BECAUSE HOW COULD IT BE WORSE‏ @RepublicanDalek 26 Apr 2018
      Replying to @gorskon @doritmi @BarristerSecret

      HE'S NOT WRONG IN HOW FAMILY LAW TREATS KIDS (CHATTEL). PARENTAL RIGHTS IN THE FAMILY LAW CONTEXT ARE CONSTITUTIONAL. THERE IS NO COMPARABLE DOCTRINE TO PROTECT THE CHILD. IT GETS DOWNRIGHT BIZARRE.

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    6. David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon 26 Apr 2018
      Replying to @RepublicanDalek @doritmi @BarristerSecret

      He's also expressing approval. This pervasive attitude that children are the parents' property is a HUGE problem that makes protecting children from medical neglect so difficult.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    7. VOTE #DALEK2024 BECAUSE HOW COULD IT BE WORSE‏ @RepublicanDalek 26 Apr 2018
      Replying to @gorskon @doritmi @BarristerSecret

      HE'S ALSO WRONG IN VACCINE CONTEXT, AS AN OLD SCOTUS CASE, JACOBSON, MAKES CLEAR THAT INDIVIDUAL CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS CAN BE SUBORDINATED TO PUBLIC HEALTH. THOUGH JACOBSON HAILS FROM HIGH EUGENICS/ANTI-IMMIGRANT PHASE OF SCOTUS, AND MAKES MANY SCHOLARS TODAY A BIT... QUEASY.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    8. (((Dorit Reiss)))‏Verified account @doritmi 26 Apr 2018
      Replying to @RepublicanDalek @gorskon @BarristerSecret

      I would draw on Prince v. Massachusetts. Although the text there is obiter, it's very persuasive obiter, and draws on Jacobson and several other cases.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    9. VOTE #DALEK2024 BECAUSE HOW COULD IT BE WORSE‏ @RepublicanDalek 26 Apr 2018
      Replying to @doritmi @gorskon @BarristerSecret

      THE DALEK WOULD HESITATE TO REACH FOR PRINCE. IT WAS A SHAKY 5-4 AT THE TIME, GIVES TOO LITTLE WEIGHT TO THE RELIGIOUS ARGUMENTS, AND FEELS LIKE A THROWBACK TO GOBITIS-STYLE HATING ON JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES. PLUS IT MIGHT NOT SURVIVE TROXEL.

      3 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    10. VOTE #DALEK2024 BECAUSE HOW COULD IT BE WORSE‏ @RepublicanDalek 26 Apr 2018
      Replying to @RepublicanDalek @doritmi and

      OH MY DAVROS I HAVE BEEN TRICKED INYO DISCUSSING SQUIRRELY OLD LAW INSTEAD OF HITTING THE BARS AT LUNCHTIME. WHAT HAVE YOU HUMANS DONE? *FLEES TO SAFETY OF NEAREST BEER MERCHANT*

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
      David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon 26 Apr 2018
      Replying to @RepublicanDalek @doritmi @BarristerSecret

      Didn't know tell you? I was just hanging out with The Doctor. 😏

      11:31 AM - 26 Apr 2018
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