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Surgeon/scientist promoting science in medicine and exposing quackery. Editor of Science-Based Medicine. My opinions do NOT represent those of my employers.

Michigan, USA
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    1. David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon 26 Apr 2018

      David Gorski, MD, PhD Retweeted The Secret Barrister

      An absolute must-read Tweetstorm from a British lawyer on the #AlfieEvans case.https://twitter.com/barristersecret/status/989195011043528704 …

      David Gorski, MD, PhD added,

      The Secret Barrister @BarristerSecret
      Oh. It. Is. On. pic.twitter.com/Hy93P4hR7U
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      1 reply 12 retweets 34 likes
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    2. David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon 26 Apr 2018

      David Gorski, MD, PhD Retweeted The Secret Barrister

      Here's a summary of @BarristerSecret's Tweets on #AlfieEvans.https://twitter.com/barristersecret/status/989208540194754565 …

      David Gorski, MD, PhD added,

      The Secret Barrister @BarristerSecret
      So, to summarise: - Government was not involved at all in the decision. - Decision based solely on assessment of Alfie’s best interests - Medical evidence overwhelming - Christian fundamentalists lying about the law to exploit tragedy. - Twitter idiots fuelling fire.
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    3. VOTE #DALEK2024 BECAUSE HOW COULD IT BE WORSE‏ @RepublicanDalek 26 Apr 2018
      Replying to @gorskon @BarristerSecret

      ASIDE FROM THE QUAINT BRITISH LINGUISTIC TRADITION OF PRETENDING THE JUDICIARY IS NOT PART OF "THE GOVERNMENT", FACT REMAINS THAT UK LAW AND US LAW DO DIFFER SEVERELY IN THESE AREAS, AND THIS OUTCOME COULD NEVER HAPPEN HERE, AS A MATTER OF BASIC CONSTITUTIONAL LAW.

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    4. VOTE #DALEK2024 BECAUSE HOW COULD IT BE WORSE‏ @RepublicanDalek 26 Apr 2018
      Replying to @RepublicanDalek @gorskon @BarristerSecret

      PARENTAL RIGHTS ARE HIGHLY CONSTITUTIONALIZED (SEE TROXEL V. GRANVILLE). THE STATES ARE BOUND VIA INCORPORATION. AND THE JUDICIARY ORDERING ONLY PALLIATIVE CARE, NO MATTER HOW WELL INFORMED A DECISION IT MIGHT BE MEDICALLY, WOULD BE A CLEAR 5TH AMENDMENT "TAKING" OF LIFE. ETC.

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    5. (((Dorit Reiss)))‏Verified account @doritmi 26 Apr 2018
      Replying to @RepublicanDalek @gorskon @BarristerSecret

      Parental rights do have a very high status, but they're not absolute - court have overridden them in the interest of the child before. The problem is that in most of those cases the scenario is the opposite - the parents want to cease treatment or not give treatment, v. hospital.

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    6. David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon 26 Apr 2018
      Replying to @doritmi @RepublicanDalek @BarristerSecret

      IANAL, but I'm pretty sure that the best interest of the child is the legal standard in the US too. I've blogged about cases where the courts ordered chemotherapy for children with cancer whose parents didn't want it, preferring quackery instead.

      1 reply 1 retweet 1 like
    7. VOTE #DALEK2024 BECAUSE HOW COULD IT BE WORSE‏ @RepublicanDalek 26 Apr 2018
      Replying to @gorskon @doritmi @BarristerSecret

      BEST INTEREST OF THE CHILD IS STILL THE STANDARD ON PAPER, BUT SINCE TROXEL, THAT HAS BECOME SOMETHING OF A FICTION, AS ANY SIGNIFICANT DECISION THAT WOULD OVERRIDE PARENTAL DECISIONMAKING BECOMES HIGH CONSTITUTIONAL THEATRE.

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    8. VOTE #DALEK2024 BECAUSE HOW COULD IT BE WORSE‏ @RepublicanDalek 26 Apr 2018
      Replying to @RepublicanDalek @gorskon and

      AS YOU AND THE OTHER HUMAN POINT OUT, COURTS (RARELY) OVERRIDE AND ORDER MEDICAL TREATMENT. THAT IS ESSENTIALLY A JUDGMENT THAT DENYING CARE AMOUNTS TO CHILD ABUSE, WHICH (ONLY PARTIALLY) CONFLICTS WITH PARENTAL CON RIGHTS. BUT ORDERING *NON-TREATMENT*?

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      David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon 26 Apr 2018
      Replying to @RepublicanDalek @doritmi @BarristerSecret

      Palliative care is not "non-treatment."

      10:08 AM - 26 Apr 2018
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        2. (((Dorit Reiss)))‏Verified account @doritmi 26 Apr 2018
          Replying to @gorskon @RepublicanDalek @BarristerSecret

          It would certainly run into cultural barriers. For example, our courts have in the past hesitated to find that being born with severe disabilities is an injury, when the option was not being born. I don't know where a judge would go.

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        3. VOTE #DALEK2024 BECAUSE HOW COULD IT BE WORSE‏ @RepublicanDalek 26 Apr 2018
          Replying to @doritmi @gorskon @BarristerSecret

          THE DALEK KNOWS FAMILY COURT JUDGES ARE STILL RUNNING VERY SCARED OF CONSTITUTIONALIZATION, AND HAVE ALLOWED SOME SHOCKING THINGS IN ITS SECTOR TO AVOID CONFRONTING IT. DALEK WOULD BET A VEEERY LARGE VOLUME OF BEER ON THE OUTCOME. #SERIOUSBIDNESS

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        1. VOTE #DALEK2024 BECAUSE HOW COULD IT BE WORSE‏ @RepublicanDalek 26 Apr 2018
          Replying to @gorskon @doritmi @BarristerSecret

          NOT WHAT DALEK MEANT. IN THIS CASE, JUDICIALLY BARRING A PROPOSED TREATMENT.

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        2. Rosewind‏ @Rosewind2007 26 Apr 2018
          Replying to @gorskon @RepublicanDalek and

          Rosewind Retweeted Rachel Clarke

          Thought you might be interested in this article:https://twitter.com/doctor_oxford/status/989493786677071873?s=20 …

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          Rachel ClarkeVerified account @doctor_oxford
          This had to be said. My piece on the appalling exploitation - for political & religious ends - of a dying child and his grieving parents. #AlfieEvans https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/apr/26/nhs-palliative-care-alfie-evans-die-with-dignity …
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        3. VOTE #DALEK2024 BECAUSE HOW COULD IT BE WORSE‏ @RepublicanDalek 27 Apr 2018
          Replying to @Rosewind2007 @gorskon and

          A PIECE BY AN NHS DOCTOR EXPRESSING THEIR VIEW ON WHEN A PARTICULAR PATIENT SHOULD 'DIE WITH DIGNITY' SEEMS LIKE A SPECTACULARLY POOR METHOD TO ASSUAGE CONCERNS THAT SAID ESTABLISHMENT IS USURPING PRIVATE MEDICAL DECISIONMAKING. #DOMEPLUNGER

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