I have a problem with dressing up a culture war as an empirical argument where one side claims some moral high ground.
The gun owning NRA supporting mom
her kids just as much as the Starbucks vegan latte sipping mom who thinks she’s imbued with moral clarity here
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Replying to @anish_koka @MarkHoofnagle
But by all means - March away - given childhood obesity rates - it’s good for them! Also very important they learn early the one side good other side bad rhetoric.
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Replying to @anish_koka @MarkHoofnagle
You said ‘straw man’ because the debate starts with the scourge of gun violence , not rare mass shootings. I responded with the wapo headline to blow your straw man away.
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Replying to @MarkHoofnagle
I’m getting less and less interested in your debate with
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Replying to @anish_koka @RogueRad
There is none to grasp in your argument. Immigrants are less likely to commit crime and amplifying rare events to suggest otherwise is bigotry. Increased gun density, trafficking, absent screening etc increases rare events and increases every day risk. Apples and oranges.
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Replying to @MarkHoofnagle @anish_koka
If I may interject - since it appears that I am arguing with both of you. Gun control, in as far as mass killings, is faith - may or may not work. I’m fine with that
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Replying to @RogueRad @anish_koka
Thats at the edge of the data. There is reason to believe red flag laws, safe storage requirements, increasing age and better background checks could help. Roof, for instance, should have been stopped by checks but for a loophole.
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Also, remember that the argument being promulgated by pro-gun activists is that we should do nothing because nothing works, plus the Nirvana fallacy, in which it is argued that if a proposed policy won't stop ALL mass shootings it's worthless shouldn't be tried.
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Hell. They’re arguing, as always, more guns are needed. Arm the homeless (no shit that was not the Onion). Same answer to every problem. Mass shooters? More guns. Domestic violence? More guns. Stubborn stains? More guns. Damn the evidence they make things worse.
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Good point. No matter the gun-related issue, their answer is always fewer restrictions on gun ownership and carrying and more guns. Kind of like how to supply siders the answer to every economic problem is lower taxes and less regulation. It's ideology.
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