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Surgeon/scientist promoting science in medicine and exposing quackery. Editor of Science-Based Medicine. My opinions do NOT represent those of my employers.

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    1. David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon 6 Mar 2018

      I used to think that there might be something to acupuncture. I really did. But the more I evaluated the evidence, the more underwhelmed I was. Acupuncture is a theatrical placebo, nothing more. Harriet Hall agrees.https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/false-claims-for-acupuncture/ …

      27 replies 135 retweets 285 likes
    2. Granite Geek‏ @GraniteGeek 6 Mar 2018
      Replying to @gorskon

      . But placebo effects are real - they really help patients. Helping patients is the point. If acupuncture can harness placebo effectively then it is useful. The problem comes when it's goofy underlying silliness is taken as gospel and extrapolated.

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      David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon 6 Mar 2018
      Replying to @GraniteGeek

      Placebo effects are mainly artifacts of randomized clinical trials.

      9:11 AM - 6 Mar 2018
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        2. Granite Geek‏ @GraniteGeek 6 Mar 2018
          Replying to @gorskon

          That's interesting ... is there a laymen-friendly-ish analysis/eport about this that you could point me to? It's really weird defending acupuncture!

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        3. David Nunan‏ @dnunan79 6 Mar 2018
          Replying to @GraniteGeek @gorskon

          Cc @JeremyHowick

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        2. Graham MacKenzie PhC‏ @grahamcmackenzi 6 Mar 2018
          Replying to @gorskon @GraniteGeek

          I had to read his statement several times. It seems to imply the placebo effect occurs only in RCT’s? Also is it possible that creating a “placebo” in acupuncture studies is a difficult thing to do,resulting in little difference between control and active group (serious question)

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        3. Granite Geek‏ @GraniteGeek 7 Mar 2018
          Replying to @grahamcmackenzi @gorskon

          This layman suspects that studying placebo effect, which depends on the controlled delusion of your subjects, is wicked hard.

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        1. Korzibsky’s Ghost‏ @mindfulhealth1 7 Mar 2018
          Replying to @gorskon @GraniteGeek

          Wait...what? As per etymology, “placebo” in its medical sense was first recorded in 1785. The concept of “placebo effect” was attested in 1900.

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        2. Andrew Fermor‏ @Kyrall 13 Mar 2018
          Replying to @gorskon @GraniteGeek

          I like the definition of a placebo effect as "anything that might hide the effect you want to look at" - it really helps to get past the idea of "using" a placebo effect 😀

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        3. Granite Geek‏ @GraniteGeek 13 Mar 2018
          Replying to @Kyrall @gorskon

          that's a good definition for a researcher - but what about for the patient? If the placebo effect "makes" pain diminish for them, then tough beans if it hides a "real" effect!

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